I agree with your thoughtful analysis of President Biden's stand up and be counted speech. His was a much needed and courageous call to US citizens to recognize the dangers, know the enemies, and act (i.e., vote in November) to oust from elected office those who do not value Democracy nor honor the people who gave/give their lives to support the Laws of our Nation.
If T***p still believes he won in 2020, how can he possibly believe he could run AGAIN in 2024? (rhetorical question - I know it's written into the Constitution, but the eejit believes that does not apply to HIM. DUH!)
I paused a couple days to think. I also went back and reviewed former Presidents speaking with military presence in the background. In each case, these stages were in moments of great threat to democracy, as it is now. I appreciated the honesty and forthrightness. Some comments here think there is no threat; they clearly are not directly speaking to the MAGA fanatics.
Although I voted for Biden I think the actions of MAGA followers and Republicans in the senate like McConnel will allow the left leaning democrats like Elizabeth Warren and the progressives a chance. Kamala Harris is capable but lacks the fire and charisma of an Elizabeth Warren type of candidate. Her age will be an issue the Republicans will use against her.,
I support our American Representative Republic. I do not support American Disunity.
I watched Thursday evening.
I was amazed.
I was disgusted.
I was saddened.
I was amazed that so many folks in the media actually thought this disturbing, disunifying political demagoguery constituted Presidential leadership. It did not. It reeked of phoniness, from the phony Red-Light-District staging. to the phony and improper implicit suggestion that the U.S. Marine Corps was there to cheerlead for Biden. Then there was the phony and fake alarmist notion, fresh from the worst excesses of political fundraising go-to tropes, that the Criminal Traitor and a few of his fellow-traveller loudmouths are enough to successfully end "democracy" in our land. Apparently, in Biden's view, the American people have neither resiliency nor the ability to think for themselves. All that was missing from this (pardon the pun) Trumped-Up affair Thursday evening was a phony police siren wailing in the background.
I have been disgusted at the lengths to which Biden will go in employing phony and improper props and Red Herrings to promote his career, and his ease in the use of exaggeration, the somewhat-true, the almost-true, and the outright lie. There is apparently no trench he is unwilling to climb into in order to bolster his fragile but monstrous ego or distract from his many errors of judgment. His lies have included everything from accusing an innocent truck driver of driving drunk after his first wife ran a stop sign, to denying that he was ever warned not to totally withdraw troops from Afghanistan, to claiming that he never thought sanctions would be an effective deterrent to Putin's Ukraine aggression. He is not above wearing his family tragedies about his neck, and turning what should be a private matter into an overused political stump speech. He is not above engaging in plagiarism when he calculates that its use will improve his standing. No practitioner of humility he; in his self-absorbed world, there is no room for either apology or introspection. His obduracy also never allows him to learn from his mistakes, much to the detriment of the Afghan people, the Ukranian people, and of course, the American people. Biden is no friend of democracy; anyone who disagrees with him is "outrageous." or he invites them to "step outside," or he tells them he doesn't want their vote anyway, and, like Ms Clinton's notions of The Deplorables, other views are beneath his status. At their worst, dissenters are relegated to being "Dog-Faced Pony Soldiers." In all of this, Biden acts as the flip-side of Trump while further degrading the Office he holds. His saving grace is that he has not criminally betrayed the United States, as did his predecessor. But that is not enough; our country, our times, demand so much more than Biden's shrill gloom-and-doom carnival-barking.
I am saddened that Biden used Independence Hall as just another political prop, and that he threw away American unity as so much trash to be walked on to further himself and his political party.
It could have been so different. Biden could have spoken of that which unites us all. He could have spoken of Labor Day and the dignity and value of work, of American positives, even in these times; of hope for the future, of belief in the indestructibility of both the American Experiment and the American spirit, and yes, of his absolute determination to bring American Traitors to justice -on his watch.
Biden is not enough; just not being an open criminal is not enough; being merely a partisan political hack is not enough. We need another Lincoln, another FDR, another JFK, And if we don't have one now, we need to invent another one.
Of course this was a political speech but it was needed after months of lies and threats to this representative republic we need to call the MAGA extremists what they are! Apparently we the public can't come the conclusion that trump lost and he probably has committed crimes against this country!
This was and is a defining moment in US history and will set the tone for what's to come in the next 2 years....and I for one believe that bloodshed is likely. The extremist think the country is behind them...it isn't, only parts of it..but that feeling of invincibility will cause them and us much pain. Trump's offers of a bribe if he's re-elected is the gasoline on to a smoldering fire IMO. All it's gonna take is another Charlottesville and we're off to the race war.
I have been terrified of Trumps ability to reach people… it seems I can’t turn on the tv without his mugg popping up. My hope is that the investigation into Mar-a-lago will find evidence that he should be in jail. He far surpasses everything he piled on Hilary.
I wasn’t able to watch Biden’s speech, and have only seen excerpts, but I know his mind well enough. He is a true patriot who loves his country and wants to preserve our democracy.
I am a little uncomfortable that President Biden chose to give a partly political speech at Independence Hall. I feel that the speech would have been better given at a neutral location. The former guy certainly abused national sites much more egregiously, but I expect better from Democrats.
I agreed with him almost completely, but worry he was preaching to the choir. Doubtful he could change the Uber prejudiced mind of a MAGA Republican
So proud of him. His wisdom, his loyalty to our country, our democracy.
I agree with your thoughtful analysis of President Biden's stand up and be counted speech. His was a much needed and courageous call to US citizens to recognize the dangers, know the enemies, and act (i.e., vote in November) to oust from elected office those who do not value Democracy nor honor the people who gave/give their lives to support the Laws of our Nation.
I whole heartedly concur and it did my heart good to see that someone finally stood up and called this bs exactly what it is bs!!!.
Yes, I watched, and wanted to say, "Hallelujah!
If T***p still believes he won in 2020, how can he possibly believe he could run AGAIN in 2024? (rhetorical question - I know it's written into the Constitution, but the eejit believes that does not apply to HIM. DUH!)
I paused a couple days to think. I also went back and reviewed former Presidents speaking with military presence in the background. In each case, these stages were in moments of great threat to democracy, as it is now. I appreciated the honesty and forthrightness. Some comments here think there is no threat; they clearly are not directly speaking to the MAGA fanatics.
Although I voted for Biden I think the actions of MAGA followers and Republicans in the senate like McConnel will allow the left leaning democrats like Elizabeth Warren and the progressives a chance. Kamala Harris is capable but lacks the fire and charisma of an Elizabeth Warren type of candidate. Her age will be an issue the Republicans will use against her.,
What did I think?
I support our American Representative Republic. I do not support American Disunity.
I watched Thursday evening.
I was amazed.
I was disgusted.
I was saddened.
I was amazed that so many folks in the media actually thought this disturbing, disunifying political demagoguery constituted Presidential leadership. It did not. It reeked of phoniness, from the phony Red-Light-District staging. to the phony and improper implicit suggestion that the U.S. Marine Corps was there to cheerlead for Biden. Then there was the phony and fake alarmist notion, fresh from the worst excesses of political fundraising go-to tropes, that the Criminal Traitor and a few of his fellow-traveller loudmouths are enough to successfully end "democracy" in our land. Apparently, in Biden's view, the American people have neither resiliency nor the ability to think for themselves. All that was missing from this (pardon the pun) Trumped-Up affair Thursday evening was a phony police siren wailing in the background.
I have been disgusted at the lengths to which Biden will go in employing phony and improper props and Red Herrings to promote his career, and his ease in the use of exaggeration, the somewhat-true, the almost-true, and the outright lie. There is apparently no trench he is unwilling to climb into in order to bolster his fragile but monstrous ego or distract from his many errors of judgment. His lies have included everything from accusing an innocent truck driver of driving drunk after his first wife ran a stop sign, to denying that he was ever warned not to totally withdraw troops from Afghanistan, to claiming that he never thought sanctions would be an effective deterrent to Putin's Ukraine aggression. He is not above wearing his family tragedies about his neck, and turning what should be a private matter into an overused political stump speech. He is not above engaging in plagiarism when he calculates that its use will improve his standing. No practitioner of humility he; in his self-absorbed world, there is no room for either apology or introspection. His obduracy also never allows him to learn from his mistakes, much to the detriment of the Afghan people, the Ukranian people, and of course, the American people. Biden is no friend of democracy; anyone who disagrees with him is "outrageous." or he invites them to "step outside," or he tells them he doesn't want their vote anyway, and, like Ms Clinton's notions of The Deplorables, other views are beneath his status. At their worst, dissenters are relegated to being "Dog-Faced Pony Soldiers." In all of this, Biden acts as the flip-side of Trump while further degrading the Office he holds. His saving grace is that he has not criminally betrayed the United States, as did his predecessor. But that is not enough; our country, our times, demand so much more than Biden's shrill gloom-and-doom carnival-barking.
I am saddened that Biden used Independence Hall as just another political prop, and that he threw away American unity as so much trash to be walked on to further himself and his political party.
It could have been so different. Biden could have spoken of that which unites us all. He could have spoken of Labor Day and the dignity and value of work, of American positives, even in these times; of hope for the future, of belief in the indestructibility of both the American Experiment and the American spirit, and yes, of his absolute determination to bring American Traitors to justice -on his watch.
Biden is not enough; just not being an open criminal is not enough; being merely a partisan political hack is not enough. We need another Lincoln, another FDR, another JFK, And if we don't have one now, we need to invent another one.
I'm glad that President Biden is speaking up. It's about time. Way to go Joe. Keep speaking the truth. Hopefully it will keep us free.
#Roevember
This was an important speech. And just as important is the reiteration that we don’t paint all Republicans with the MAGA brush.
A potent reminder of the truth that “all that is needed for evil to win, is for good people to do nothing”.
Of course this was a political speech but it was needed after months of lies and threats to this representative republic we need to call the MAGA extremists what they are! Apparently we the public can't come the conclusion that trump lost and he probably has committed crimes against this country!
This was and is a defining moment in US history and will set the tone for what's to come in the next 2 years....and I for one believe that bloodshed is likely. The extremist think the country is behind them...it isn't, only parts of it..but that feeling of invincibility will cause them and us much pain. Trump's offers of a bribe if he's re-elected is the gasoline on to a smoldering fire IMO. All it's gonna take is another Charlottesville and we're off to the race war.
I have been terrified of Trumps ability to reach people… it seems I can’t turn on the tv without his mugg popping up. My hope is that the investigation into Mar-a-lago will find evidence that he should be in jail. He far surpasses everything he piled on Hilary.
I wasn’t able to watch Biden’s speech, and have only seen excerpts, but I know his mind well enough. He is a true patriot who loves his country and wants to preserve our democracy.
I am a little uncomfortable that President Biden chose to give a partly political speech at Independence Hall. I feel that the speech would have been better given at a neutral location. The former guy certainly abused national sites much more egregiously, but I expect better from Democrats.