"I think we should live in harmony with all living things"… what a beautiful idea. Unarguably something to strive for. As we have said earlier, strife enters when needs are in conflict. This is what is at the core of each of the trouble spots we’ve talked about… when one species, community’s or person's needs deprive another of what they…
"I think we should live in harmony with all living things"… what a beautiful idea. Unarguably something to strive for. As we have said earlier, strife enters when needs are in conflict. This is what is at the core of each of the trouble spots we’ve talked about… when one species, community’s or person's needs deprive another of what they need.
Nature resolves these situations by who/what is the smartest, strongest, or has the most perseverance. Humans hope to resolve conflicts in some way both sides get what they need, which we often call fairness. We try to step in when the strong, powerful, wealthy use their strength to treat the meek or less fortunate unfairly... through principles by which we write laws. Freedom and order are at opposite poles but complement each other.
We have seen a long expansion of freedom. Now, we are telling ourselves we are bringing order back or we're simply in an ordering mode. To live in harmony, to reorder up, this process requires the good will of participants. Restrictions work just the opposite. Our goal is elevated a person to BE better... to become a better person requires as full an education as possible, autonomy and responsibility over personal decisions and behaviors (self-governance), and a sense of belonging.
Currently there is a faction who think they know what is 'TRUTH.' And, they are willing to use their animal nature to power over other people's difference of opinion, other's needs, others safety. As you see, it creates stress, chaos, deaths, AND destroys the ability for harmony to happen. It takes no little faith in our fellow humans.
"Harmony" in nature doesn't exist. There are larger ecological systems that when working do look somewhat harmonious but within even those systems, there is violent death, since there are living things that prey on other living things to survive. Humans, however seem willing to engage in killing, just for the heck of it, or for power or getting somebody else's resources, despite the fact that we may claim that life is precious. And, does living in harmony with all living things exclude the billion food animals that are killed yearly in the US? I would like to see us actually be more respectful of all life, but as long as there are humans eating hamburgers and pork chops, that is a fantasy. What's so disheartening about all of this, is that having the chance to experience life is a precious gift, and we are too willing to waste the lives of humans and other animals for the stupidest of reasons. Death is forever.
Thanks J., I agree about the preciousness of life. Being able to appreciate life is an harmonious gift too. Part of that existence however is death; our precious earth some day will perish. So you have me pondering what I mean when I say harmony... even music stops... cymbals clash... drums pound... Does it mean working together toward some higher purpose? I'm off to the dictionary.
Hi frankly, As someone who has been protesting my whole life, I am stunned and stumped by your response to my post to Chris. Though maybe we could begin understanding if you could help me understand what you mean by, "their desires represented."
Hi frankly, Have you ever sat through a school board or city council meeting. One after another person stands up and wants something, often in opposition. If you assume honorable intend on behalf of the elected official or staff, it is easy to see how difficult these decisions are. There is rarely a simple choice. I've seen decision made that I agreed with that most in the room didn't.
But, you seem to not assume honorable intent. I do believe we have a healthy oligarchy influencing major decisions that move money in their way... created by Reganism. We can uncreate it if we focused on do it. Instead people are all atwitter about social issues. Oligarchy couldn't care less about social issues, other than a distraction.
I would guess 90%+ of decisions are honestly made... because they are constitutional, the law, or the best choice given the decider's values. That why we have elections. Decisions like Citizens United have devastated the country. Work to overturn it if you feel all our problems are money in the hands of a few. But, for heavens sake don't give comfort to those who want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
You seem like a genuinely decent sort too. Thank you.
"I think we should live in harmony with all living things"… what a beautiful idea. Unarguably something to strive for. As we have said earlier, strife enters when needs are in conflict. This is what is at the core of each of the trouble spots we’ve talked about… when one species, community’s or person's needs deprive another of what they need.
Nature resolves these situations by who/what is the smartest, strongest, or has the most perseverance. Humans hope to resolve conflicts in some way both sides get what they need, which we often call fairness. We try to step in when the strong, powerful, wealthy use their strength to treat the meek or less fortunate unfairly... through principles by which we write laws. Freedom and order are at opposite poles but complement each other.
We have seen a long expansion of freedom. Now, we are telling ourselves we are bringing order back or we're simply in an ordering mode. To live in harmony, to reorder up, this process requires the good will of participants. Restrictions work just the opposite. Our goal is elevated a person to BE better... to become a better person requires as full an education as possible, autonomy and responsibility over personal decisions and behaviors (self-governance), and a sense of belonging.
Currently there is a faction who think they know what is 'TRUTH.' And, they are willing to use their animal nature to power over other people's difference of opinion, other's needs, others safety. As you see, it creates stress, chaos, deaths, AND destroys the ability for harmony to happen. It takes no little faith in our fellow humans.
"Harmony" in nature doesn't exist. There are larger ecological systems that when working do look somewhat harmonious but within even those systems, there is violent death, since there are living things that prey on other living things to survive. Humans, however seem willing to engage in killing, just for the heck of it, or for power or getting somebody else's resources, despite the fact that we may claim that life is precious. And, does living in harmony with all living things exclude the billion food animals that are killed yearly in the US? I would like to see us actually be more respectful of all life, but as long as there are humans eating hamburgers and pork chops, that is a fantasy. What's so disheartening about all of this, is that having the chance to experience life is a precious gift, and we are too willing to waste the lives of humans and other animals for the stupidest of reasons. Death is forever.
Thanks J., I agree about the preciousness of life. Being able to appreciate life is an harmonious gift too. Part of that existence however is death; our precious earth some day will perish. So you have me pondering what I mean when I say harmony... even music stops... cymbals clash... drums pound... Does it mean working together toward some higher purpose? I'm off to the dictionary.
Hi frankly, As someone who has been protesting my whole life, I am stunned and stumped by your response to my post to Chris. Though maybe we could begin understanding if you could help me understand what you mean by, "their desires represented."
Hi frankly, Have you ever sat through a school board or city council meeting. One after another person stands up and wants something, often in opposition. If you assume honorable intend on behalf of the elected official or staff, it is easy to see how difficult these decisions are. There is rarely a simple choice. I've seen decision made that I agreed with that most in the room didn't.
But, you seem to not assume honorable intent. I do believe we have a healthy oligarchy influencing major decisions that move money in their way... created by Reganism. We can uncreate it if we focused on do it. Instead people are all atwitter about social issues. Oligarchy couldn't care less about social issues, other than a distraction.
I would guess 90%+ of decisions are honestly made... because they are constitutional, the law, or the best choice given the decider's values. That why we have elections. Decisions like Citizens United have devastated the country. Work to overturn it if you feel all our problems are money in the hands of a few. But, for heavens sake don't give comfort to those who want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
You seem like a genuinely decent sort too. Thank you.