Something to think about: a lot has been made recently about Trump's declining mental acuity. He often can't seem to keep a thought long enough to form a complete sentence. But.... Trump controls the MAGA cult, and the MAGA folks are loyal to him in spite of a growing list of shortcomings. I think the MAGAs are going to attempt to win or steal the election with Trump at the top of the ticket, but soon after - within a year at most - Trump steps aside and we are left with President Vance. Trump's only interest is in WINNING, not governing. If he's successful I do not see him wanting to be bothered with the nitty gritty of actually governing. No one thinks that Vance on his own is electable for anything, so this is the only way to get him in the door as VP.
Trump will be a dictator and never give up power once he has it, unless his puppeteers find a way to take it from him. They need him to do as they wish in his name, as much as he actually needs them to make him look like he can do anything! He’s legitimately and authentically mentally ill and now also clearly declining with dementia and or the like. Bottom line, he’s completely 1000 percent not fit for office and beyond dangerous if back in office* As for Vance, he’s a whole other level of “not wellness” and possibly as dangerous or worse than Trump! Vote Blue up and down the ballot to make sure we will have a country that evolves by choice and not by chance* Simply answer the question: what do you want? Freedom or Tyranny? Democracy or Fascism? Because how you vote will determine what you get*
I also completely agree that the act of voting is vital to our existence. The outcome is not clear today but Nov. 6th could be the day when the real weight needs to be lifted.
Why else would Vance change his stripes? He knows DJT will implode very soon, and he's positioning himself in the wings, waiting to snatch up what's left and turn it into something even worse.
I think Vance was selected by the heritage foundation to be president. They will have trump removed by the 25th amendment and Vance will be president. And he will follow their orders.
The majority of persons over 60 have some white matter change. It increases the possibility of strokes, can affect balance, memory, even bladder control.
No, that's not the cause. SENIORS and everyone, take a look at the RediMind product. Just Google "RediMind". There's a good, scientific writeup about each ingredient. Aging depletes certain essential nutrients for brain function.
sorry my comment was aimed at Trumps friendship with Putin. Scary and who would get the better hand- easy answer and scary for the whole world and peace.
And it will work he's incompetent now,ask his cultist about Coachella, the ranch where cultist were stranded for hours a lot of them were elderly and couldn't make the 5 mile walk back to their cars and he just left them. I found out later that some of the bus drivers were threatened and would not go back. Sound like tRumps cult?
Shout out to the sheriffs for watching out and supplying rides to as many as they could, I'm guessing.
I think the people propping Vance up to be a candidate have plans to get rid of orange man and install the "do what I'm told" guy in his place for their long term agenda.
I have absolutely no doubt you're right, Tracey. Vance was not tRump's choice. Vance was selected by the owners to be the VP candidate.
They won't win, but if they did, I'll bet the plan was either for Vance to invoke the 25th amendment a few months in, or for the next assassination attempt to be successful.
I think you are on too something real here. Maybe even Trump was in on the deal. He gets some kind of financial cut and gets to erase his Fed legal problems, if he wins, and then either steps down or just become the front for his backers policies.
I remember reading about Opus Dei during the Trump Administration. Mike Pompeo was busted as being a member of that "secret society." It made a lot of sense to explain his dodgy behavior. When I read that JD Vance had just in 2019 become a Catholic, I wondered immediately if he was lusting for an invitation to Opus Dei. Vance is a climber and loves to be one of the "exclusive."
Sorry but there is no way this spineless fool does anything of the sort. He’s a man of zero conviction, no moral compass. He will do what he told and he won’t be told to dispose of Trump.
They're obviously quite aware that DJT's shelf life is rapidly expiring. Don't think for a nanosecond that they don't have a plan. The REAL deep state is starting to show its hand, revealed by the application of simple logic. But then, they're also quite aware that a solid third-plus of the electorate is simply incapable of doing so. I'd bet on that poker hand if I were them.
The people that outline project 2025 and the pro forced birth crowd are pulling the strings and the vision for America they want should terrify everyone
DT would give orders in his name (loooves to see his own signature). JD would be left to mismanage- and dismantle- the entire US govt. All for as long as DT pretends he can still golf. (He did golf, as the USA died).
Exactly. Their presidential candidate is now the Manchurian Cantaloupe, serving only to get the VP candidate in the White House to start implementing Project 2025.
The Republican party and entire right wing apparatus support Trump/Vance - no matter. I am leery of polls in general, but it is nice to have them on your side - and Trump increasingly does in crucial states. In many places where Harris has slipped in the polls, Jill Stein has surged. Her 1-2% support could determine the race - which is exactly what makes her attractive to those out to punish the Democratic party, no matter the pain to those a Republican administration will irreparably harm. Cue the happy music on Putin's and Netanyahu's play lists.
When Hitler's coup attempt failed, he went legit. His election win was spurred by Stalin splitting German Communists from the German Center Left. Putin allied Stein is doing the same here - splitting the American Far Left from the Center Left Democratic party. Cue the happy music in the quisling camp.
Those of us not dancing to those tunes, have a lot of work to do. We always have. Take heart.
Jill Stein is, like trump, a Friend of Pukin. How anyone still wants to support her, and thus essentially give their vote to trump, is WAAAAY beyond my comprehension. She is a very scary person.
Stein voters have been explicit about their support:
they believe there is a scenario in which she wins; they want to teach the Democratic party a lesson for not appealing to them; they want Trump to win because if things get bad enough then the people will rise up for a socialist revolution.
And they take no responsibility for the harm of empowering Trump et al.
And then there are the unreasonable and counterfactual articles of faith. Which demonstrates the irrational habits of mind shared by ideological and religious 'true believers.'
Stein is an ego driven shill of bigger egos. Not so much scary as despicable. In the way hypocrites and cheats tend to be. cf Leonard Leo.
"they want Trump to win because if things get bad enough then the people will rise up for a socialist revolution." In your dreams, sweethearts, in your dreams.
Yes. Exactly. They seem to have missed that in the United States 'the people's revolution' has been a shift to fascism.
Through plutocrats and populists joining
in antidemocratic initiatives.
MAGA and Christian Nationalism are the result of Reagan in bed with Ralph Reed - movement conservatism with the religious right. (As personified by Charles Koch bagman, piety influencer, and court capture operative Leonard Leo)
I'm sorry but polls are BS. I tried to take one from Hillsdale college just to see where it lead pretty much as I expected rightwing to the point of extreme, there are so many out there and most are extremely bias.
She hasn't "slipped in the polls" plus most polls are relatively useless three weeks out! MSM today even claimed that polls showing her up 5% are within the MOE? What? How about 10%?
The only real poll is the betting poll. Who is putting their money on who will win.
It's always accurate. No one is at all emotional or politically biased when it comes to their money.
Gamblers are not confining their information to what's presented by their favorite Party. They look at everything from both Parties in order to make a clear decision.
All of you should check it out. Trump is leading Harris by 15%.
This is a lie! The betting polls are not allowed to accept Americans betting and foreign cash that favors Rump is trying to fool Americans that he is winning— sham!
The last time Trump won in 2016 Bernie and his bust, boys did the same in 3 states that gave Trump the White House, Wis. Penn and Mich, Bernie's uninformed groupies either voted for Stein or didn't vote to punish the DNC and Hillary, who Benie demonized in the primaries so affectively.
This is entirely a problem created by FOX News and its lesser imitators, who either don't report on gaffes by Trump--or any other GOP politician--or who sanewash his gibberish. The conservative spectrum of the Fourth Estate are entirely responsible, and have collectively abandoned any pretense of journalistic integrity, hiding behind their First Amendment right to sell opinion and entertainment as actual news.
It's time to hold RW "journalism" to account by either tightening up our libel laws; and/or making some sort of return to the Fairness Doctrine. The constant torrent of lies by RW media and politicians needs to stop, and voters need to once again have confidence that the Fourth Estate will present facts and not make-believe.
Unfortunately, it’s not just Fox News who’s guilty of terrible journalism! Let’s face it. The entire corporate media has not been given it to us straight. In addition to normalizing him all along, they’ve been telling us what Trump meant to say, what their interpretations are, and not what Trump himself has actually been in fact saying and doing. This one example Rather points out is too little too late, way past due but if The NY Times has any integrity left they’ll start reporting just the honest truth and facts thank you very much, like real journalists finally doing their jobs and not people afraid of or cow tailing to Trump and his cronies…
Don't disagree with you. But it's FOX et al who take a leadership role again and again in driving RW stories that benefit RW pols and constituencies, that over time become leading stories in the MSM. "Biden is Senile," e.g., was relentlessly pushed by FOX even before the 2020 primaries. The Critical Race Theory brouhaha is perhaps the greatest example of an obscure grad school course supposedly being used for anti-white indoctrination in every public school in America. The Franken senatorial hit-job harnessing #MeToo outrage is another example.
Furthermore, MSM--including NYT & WaPo--is not pro-Dem. It's arguably right-of-center regarding economic matters; and left-of-center only regarding social issues that reflect prevailing popular sentiment, like a woman's right to choose.
Maybe. More likely journalists who come up with a few story ideas to write on; and their editor says, "Go ahead and write about that one."
The medial--left, right, and center--loves Trump immensely. Because every crazy or odious thing out of his mouth is guaranteed to generate clicks and eyeballs. NYT & WaPo readership exploded during '45; and both did skew slightly Leftwards. But both forgot pretty quickly that all that money both made was due to Liberal outrage at MAGA sliminess.
This echos something I've written elsewhere, except Trump won't step aside. That's not within the capability of either his character or narcissism. Instead, one of two things happen. He's removed via the 25th Amendment, Vance takes over and names Johnson as his VP. Who becomes speaker will depend on who controls the House.
OR, he has a "heart attack" in the middle of the night, and Vance takes over. Again naming Johnson as his VP. Or someone very much like Johnson.
Of course this all depends very much on his winning the EC. If he loses in a landslide like many of us believe he will, then it's all moot.
Also, remember it's important for him to WIN in order to get all the court cases against him stopped. Or at least the federal ones.
I go with a delicate "encouraging him to see what fun retirement would be." They will get increasingly concerned about how he appears before the public, nationally and internationally.
Trump's PR staff and advisors would figure out some glorified and politically correct excuse to the public to explain his "retirement, " and explain to the Cult that he will be an "advisor," keep his Truth Social, and be readily available to his fans (up to a point). Republicans are just trying to make it to the finish line, and if Trump is elected, their real intent for that four years is Vance, who will prove far more malleable and economically adept that Trump ever did. Peter Thiel's puppet.
But they might have a battle on their hands, considering the court cases, not all of which can be extinguished by another Trump Administration. Trump may fight being shuffled out.
Vance would not be the one able to push him out and anyway, the blowback from the Cult on Vance would be huge. Trump is their Messiah (let's see how long he can keep THAT up in retirement). Vance wants to be in politics for a while.
SO MUCH USELESS CONJECTURE and post NOV 6 gloom..... with three weeks to go the point Mr. Rather makes is that the press is now finally highlighting the apparent decline and unfitness of DT......I would love to see editorials in local papers highlighting the point Dan Rather makes... Biden may look frail but when he speaks he has a grasp of reality and issues as opposed to trump who appears strong (I seriously doubt he is physically fit - we won't see his medical records) but he is not able to coherently express anything with clarity or logic....I would love to see a version of this steady column on the editorial pages of our leading newspapers ..... not that the MAGA crowds read newspapers. Maybe this should be on TIK TOK...Harris tonight on Fox brought home how many people who surrounded Trump say he is not fit to hold the presidency .... Pound that idea home to disillusioned Republicans ... stop predicting the gloom and stick to getting the work of winning done VOTE VOTE VOTE
MAGAites are not reading the NY Times, the WSJ or most publications. They are getting their information from curated sound bites on their infotainment "news" channel of choice. Everything else is fake news.
Probably true, I have a real fear that Vance being younger will implement 2025 and go on and run two terms at least. I looked up his backer, Peter Thiel and it’s scary how well financed the whole lot of the billionaires club and their beliefs are about democracy.
I think the Hindenberg Light Show from Dan's piece is where trump and the hillbilly are headed. We been flying crazy repub skies for a long time and the country is tired. Yes, some trumptards are "goners"; they long ago left the planet and will stay till the bitter end. But dancing Don and his Catlady guy's days are numbered. More republicans are defecting for the sake of reason and democracy. I'm looking forward to the "Light Show" in November. This kind of all-over-the-place crazy is not sustainable.
I bet he doesn't even last a year if he's elected. They'll kick him out of office with the help of the 25th amendment and Vance will be their new puppet.
And Vance will likely be a better puppet than Trump. Like Hitler in 1930's Germany, the Republican Party thought that they'll use Trump's popularity to advance their own agenda. And then Trump ends up pretty much taking over the party. Even with jail on the line and needing to appease voters to win, he's not turning out to be a great puppet.
He seems to be largely a puppet of his own ego. Stroke the ego, stroke the puppet; he wags his tail. Feed that ego; feed it! Very easy to manipulate. All the other despotic world "leaders" understand this very well, it's part of how they gained their power. And they can see this in DJT quite clearly, he proudly wears it like what he thinks is a mantle of greatness. I see it as a mantle of shame.
Using the 25th might make Republicans look like bad guys. Now, if the legislatures both turn blue and impeach Trump again, the 25th is a possibility, if I have my procedures right.
That's the whole point. Whether they poison trump (a la pukin) or use the 25th (which could make his cult arise in fury), they will put jd in place and Project 2025 will become the law of the land. Bye bye democracy.
What is so confounding is that Biden, while he looks older and has less energy than previously, is generally able to express ideas clearly. He is not in the throes of progressive dementia. And, yet, Trump has been for a long time. The decline is obvious. And, yet, the mainstream media made a huge issue of Biden's age, and we heard not a peep about Trump's decline. Is it finally so obvious that it is impossible to ignore? And, if so, why are some still continuing to excuse and "explain" it away. I'm dumbfounded.
Sometimes I think Trump may be taking drugs to boost his energy levels. His scatter-brained rants could be likened to those of someone on amphetamines or some kind of stimulant.
Agree but as MD I think he what we call organic brain disease: dementia? Normal pressure hydrocephalus even brain cancer ????? Remember we have no objective medical records. I’m terrified even in 🇨🇦
Jean Biden lived to be 92, and from what I can find, she died after a short illness, no mention of dementia. Fred Trump died at 93 from “pneumonia complicated by Alzheimer’s disease.”
Looks like the apple hasn’t fallen too far from a certain former president’s family tree.
This has to be the SCARIEST veep pick since Palin. In 2008 the scariest words in the English language were “President Palin”. I won’t even type the 2024 version for fear of breathing it into life.
It's a tie between Palin and Kari Lake. (She's for "UVF" you know, and said it three times during a recent debate against her opponent.) The only difference is that she can't see Russia from her front porch.
Trump doesn’t have any policies!! No comparison to see! He wants to be king and do what he pleases! Vote blue to save our country and our rich history!
Trump is becoming more unhinged each day. Today he starting naming names on his REVENGE "Hit-List". Adam Schiff was first mentioned because according to Trump, he was the one pushing the "Russia, Russia, Russia" "hoax".
No where have I see mentioned that the REPUBLICAN LEAD Senate Intelligence Committee investigated the Russian Collusion and found that indeed the Trump Campaign did collude with the Russians. Why isn't THIS reported on when Trump makes this false claim?
It's addictive and seductive. I read an interview years ago with a retired Fox executive who explained what we all suspected: that Roger Ailes purposely designed the TV site to be addictive and distracting -- perfect for discouraging thinking too much about what they just said. They took CNN's chyron and put it on steroids. Topping it off, the announcers were loud and hostile much of the time. AND it was reinforced daily -- so essential to maintain a cult.
If Trump is re-elected, heaven forbid, he could be removed from office by his cabinet, using 25th amendment. Then something worse could take over, namely J D Vance! Vote for Harris and prevent this nightmare.
Think about it. He will appoint all "Yes Men and Women". They will not dare challenge the omnipotent Trump. We also cannot expect the Republicans to do anything either. If he takes office, this country is screwed.
The media has been completely irresponsible with regard to trump, from whitewashing his decline, jumping up and down about Biden's alleged decline (he is of sound mind) to not highlighting the accomplishments of his administration. At a time when the public needs to know the truth, they have failed miserably. Whatever happened to integrity and reporting the facts?
On a much brighter note, the bull-shittery in Georgia was shot down by His Honor, Judge McBurney AND early voting set records! Also, staying true to his word, President James Earl Carter cast his ballot yesterday too 💙💙💙.
Thank you, Jimmy Carter! He made it to 100 yo, and had a very good (selfless!) reason to.
Right now, in Oct, I had planned to be in NJ and help my 82 yo mother vote. I had secured vote by mail for her. Sadly on 6/20, she lost her post-stroke fight. One less vote now... by a woman who, 1st hand, saw the advancements that women's freedom had made. She didn't want any less freedom for women, for healthcare, or for education.
My dad's decline coincided exactly with pandemic... no one in my generation doing eldercare could forget the stupidity of the orange one. The contempt DT has for Americans... it's still sickening every day.
The media also needs to focus its attention on Vance, for obvious reasons. If Trump can’t coherently respond to the questions on policy, Vance can. And if he’s simply a “mini me of the unhinged”, that’s equally troubling.
Trump is definitely declining, but like his father Fred, dementia with power is a dangerous combination. The next danger is the threat a JD Vance and Heritage presents. No good answers on that side of the selection and almost half of the electorate is for this means the news is not out. Good to see that it is starting, but it needs to hit very heavy rotation.
He has been crazy for some time, but the drolling sentences and incoherent ramblings need to be called what it really is.
"Not everyone thought this was incredibly strange behavior for a presidential nominee. The Wall Street Journal’s headline was “Trump’s Pennsylvania Town Hall Ends in Concert.” As someone on X commented, that’s akin to saying the Hindenburg landing ended in a light show."
Trump's base isn't voting for him because of his mental abilities. They are full on board with MAGA. So long as that movement continues. In particular the promise of the supremacy they expect or perceive, they are on board.
Exactly! What they can’t get through their heads is, chump doesn’t care about them either. The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its’ limits!
Until the media can recognize & educationally report on one of our political parties being owned & operated by malignant narcissists, sociopaths & psychopaths, America will continue to remain under grave threat. Just look how close a rapidly declining grandiose malignant narcissist with dementia is to the Presidency right now.
I imagine that most of the people that attended, just thought that he was Great, dancing on that stage. Horrifically, That "STUPID" may Destroy Us All. The "Media" needs a new acronym. The old meaning just doesn't fit them any more. Thanks Dan & Team. Best Regards
Does anyone remember the character Dancing Bear on the old Captain Kangaroo TV show? Trump's performance brought back memories, though I never remembered Dancing Bear to grimace, frown, and clench his paws. Donnie gives it a new twist.
YES!! I remember Dancing Bear on the old Captain Kangaroo TV Show. Watched it every weekday morning. I would be very happy to NOT Remember tRump though.
That swaying to music/fist pumping... what a show that will be at the next G20, or NATO, or...
Most Americans forget that the potus position is extremely global.
We know CN & RU would be his best buddies... but, how, do we expect current Ally countries to react to USA policy that moves 180 degrees from democracy?
USA will become a piranha country... no longer on the same playing at all, with other democracies. Stability, respect and leverage all go away. That would not be fixed 4 years later.
Something to think about: a lot has been made recently about Trump's declining mental acuity. He often can't seem to keep a thought long enough to form a complete sentence. But.... Trump controls the MAGA cult, and the MAGA folks are loyal to him in spite of a growing list of shortcomings. I think the MAGAs are going to attempt to win or steal the election with Trump at the top of the ticket, but soon after - within a year at most - Trump steps aside and we are left with President Vance. Trump's only interest is in WINNING, not governing. If he's successful I do not see him wanting to be bothered with the nitty gritty of actually governing. No one thinks that Vance on his own is electable for anything, so this is the only way to get him in the door as VP.
Trump will be a dictator and never give up power once he has it, unless his puppeteers find a way to take it from him. They need him to do as they wish in his name, as much as he actually needs them to make him look like he can do anything! He’s legitimately and authentically mentally ill and now also clearly declining with dementia and or the like. Bottom line, he’s completely 1000 percent not fit for office and beyond dangerous if back in office* As for Vance, he’s a whole other level of “not wellness” and possibly as dangerous or worse than Trump! Vote Blue up and down the ballot to make sure we will have a country that evolves by choice and not by chance* Simply answer the question: what do you want? Freedom or Tyranny? Democracy or Fascism? Because how you vote will determine what you get*
I agree! Vote blue all the way and be done with chump forever!!!!
I also completely agree that the act of voting is vital to our existence. The outcome is not clear today but Nov. 6th could be the day when the real weight needs to be lifted.
Why else would Vance change his stripes? He knows DJT will implode very soon, and he's positioning himself in the wings, waiting to snatch up what's left and turn it into something even worse.
I think Vance was selected by the heritage foundation to be president. They will have trump removed by the 25th amendment and Vance will be president. And he will follow their orders.
So very sad and terrible for our country.
A truly frightening prospect.....worse than Trump in charge..........
That is the master plan, James. Thiel, Stephen Miller, and Leonard Leo have plotted it all out
He may have white matter brain disease. It's fairly common in persons his age and is caused by insufficient blood flow to the brain.
I had never heard of white matter brain disease, so I looked it up. Thanks for the heads up! Very interesting malady.
The majority of persons over 60 have some white matter change. It increases the possibility of strokes, can affect balance, memory, even bladder control.
No, that's not the cause. SENIORS and everyone, take a look at the RediMind product. Just Google "RediMind". There's a good, scientific writeup about each ingredient. Aging depletes certain essential nutrients for brain function.
And don’t forget he’s also ignorant!
Poison works. A la pukin.
yup and that really speaks for his mental health= Pukin it is NOT hopefully
(? No sure I understand what you mean. I meant that jd et. al would poison the orange sadist.)
sorry my comment was aimed at Trumps friendship with Putin. Scary and who would get the better hand- easy answer and scary for the whole world and peace.
Perfectly said.
I agree but think vance will kick trump to the curb not long after their inauguration.
Yes. I do believe if that disaster is the plan if they win the election. That will be this country’s big mistake. Harris & Walz must win!
Harris/Walz will win. Google Allan Lichtman.💙
Yes , I agree. Harris must win this election because failure is not a option.
I agree. He will find a way as soon as possible (25th Amendment) to declare him incompetent.
And it will work he's incompetent now,ask his cultist about Coachella, the ranch where cultist were stranded for hours a lot of them were elderly and couldn't make the 5 mile walk back to their cars and he just left them. I found out later that some of the bus drivers were threatened and would not go back. Sound like tRumps cult?
Shout out to the sheriffs for watching out and supplying rides to as many as they could, I'm guessing.
Vance and the republicans may already have such an agenda planned. None of them are above setting the stage.
I think the people propping Vance up to be a candidate have plans to get rid of orange man and install the "do what I'm told" guy in his place for their long term agenda.
I have absolutely no doubt you're right, Tracey. Vance was not tRump's choice. Vance was selected by the owners to be the VP candidate.
They won't win, but if they did, I'll bet the plan was either for Vance to invoke the 25th amendment a few months in, or for the next assassination attempt to be successful.
My husband and I were talking about this today. Musk and Thiel would be the micromanaging bros behind a Vance presidency, heaven forbid.
I think you are on too something real here. Maybe even Trump was in on the deal. He gets some kind of financial cut and gets to erase his Fed legal problems, if he wins, and then either steps down or just become the front for his backers policies.
Scary, but what isnt about a TV admin?
I survive right now on the hope of seeing him pay for his crimes.
Read RollingbStone's article on Opus Dei. Draw your own conclusions.
I remember reading about Opus Dei during the Trump Administration. Mike Pompeo was busted as being a member of that "secret society." It made a lot of sense to explain his dodgy behavior. When I read that JD Vance had just in 2019 become a Catholic, I wondered immediately if he was lusting for an invitation to Opus Dei. Vance is a climber and loves to be one of the "exclusive."
You're absolutely correct.
Exactly
oh ! Their inauguration ? Are they going to win ? I do not think so.
Also my concern. I think JD Vance will also be horrible for our country.
It is bad enough he is one of my senators in Ohio. I didn't vote for him then and wouldn't vote for him or Moreno now!
Sorry but there is no way this spineless fool does anything of the sort. He’s a man of zero conviction, no moral compass. He will do what he told and he won’t be told to dispose of Trump.
You think Peter Thiele won't tell him to dispose of Trump? And that Vance won't do it? Just you watch.
I'm sure it will happen if they win, however, I'm really hoping I don't get the chance to see what they will do.
Indeed. As is anyone with a lick of sense.
They're obviously quite aware that DJT's shelf life is rapidly expiring. Don't think for a nanosecond that they don't have a plan. The REAL deep state is starting to show its hand, revealed by the application of simple logic. But then, they're also quite aware that a solid third-plus of the electorate is simply incapable of doing so. I'd bet on that poker hand if I were them.
Of course he will. jd is a puppet, for sale to highest bidder.
The people that outline project 2025 and the pro forced birth crowd are pulling the strings and the vision for America they want should terrify everyone
I know I am terrified already.
I would bet money on that proposition. JD is a malignant opportunistic shell of a person!
I agree. Where going to se the 25th amendment before you can blink.
As bad as Trump is, the idea of President Vance gives me chills.
We know what we have to do, blue all the way down the ballot.
a complete co-dependency.
DT would give orders in his name (loooves to see his own signature). JD would be left to mismanage- and dismantle- the entire US govt. All for as long as DT pretends he can still golf. (He did golf, as the USA died).
That's depressing.
I think so too.
Exactly. Their presidential candidate is now the Manchurian Cantaloupe, serving only to get the VP candidate in the White House to start implementing Project 2025.
Manchurian canteloupe 🤣
Oh, that is wonderful!
😂 funny but not really, more like 😱 scary!
Love "Manchurian Cantaloupe." May I use it?
It's not mine. It's one of many nicknames coined by James Fell: https://www.facebook.com/bodyforwife/
Tangerine Palpatine, Don Cheeto...
and, the "I will erase the cases against me" stay out of jail card
Anything is possible with Trump. We have learned to expect that much from him.
The Republican party and entire right wing apparatus support Trump/Vance - no matter. I am leery of polls in general, but it is nice to have them on your side - and Trump increasingly does in crucial states. In many places where Harris has slipped in the polls, Jill Stein has surged. Her 1-2% support could determine the race - which is exactly what makes her attractive to those out to punish the Democratic party, no matter the pain to those a Republican administration will irreparably harm. Cue the happy music on Putin's and Netanyahu's play lists.
When Hitler's coup attempt failed, he went legit. His election win was spurred by Stalin splitting German Communists from the German Center Left. Putin allied Stein is doing the same here - splitting the American Far Left from the Center Left Democratic party. Cue the happy music in the quisling camp.
Those of us not dancing to those tunes, have a lot of work to do. We always have. Take heart.
Jill Stein is, like trump, a Friend of Pukin. How anyone still wants to support her, and thus essentially give their vote to trump, is WAAAAY beyond my comprehension. She is a very scary person.
"... WAAAAY beyond my comprehension."
Stein voters have been explicit about their support:
they believe there is a scenario in which she wins; they want to teach the Democratic party a lesson for not appealing to them; they want Trump to win because if things get bad enough then the people will rise up for a socialist revolution.
And they take no responsibility for the harm of empowering Trump et al.
And then there are the unreasonable and counterfactual articles of faith. Which demonstrates the irrational habits of mind shared by ideological and religious 'true believers.'
Stein is an ego driven shill of bigger egos. Not so much scary as despicable. In the way hypocrites and cheats tend to be. cf Leonard Leo.
"they want Trump to win because if things get bad enough then the people will rise up for a socialist revolution." In your dreams, sweethearts, in your dreams.
Yes. Exactly. They seem to have missed that in the United States 'the people's revolution' has been a shift to fascism.
Through plutocrats and populists joining
in antidemocratic initiatives.
MAGA and Christian Nationalism are the result of Reagan in bed with Ralph Reed - movement conservatism with the religious right. (As personified by Charles Koch bagman, piety influencer, and court capture operative Leonard Leo)
Let's end it.
People's stupidity is absolutely mind-blowing at times. (Does Jill Stein think that pukin is some kind of Socialist Wunderkind?)
Delusional as well are they? Great just what we need more nuts for the party.
Stein and Bannon….match made in heaven? (er, hell?) Opposites attract?? Dunno…strange bedfellows these daze……
Geez, I’d forgotten all about her.
Keep her name out of your brain files. Despicable is the right way to describe her as well as others.
I'm sorry but polls are BS. I tried to take one from Hillsdale college just to see where it lead pretty much as I expected rightwing to the point of extreme, there are so many out there and most are extremely bias.
She hasn't "slipped in the polls" plus most polls are relatively useless three weeks out! MSM today even claimed that polls showing her up 5% are within the MOE? What? How about 10%?
There are many 'reputable' polling entities. Harris has slipped in some of their polls. My generalization was misleading. I apologize.
"Swing state map: Polls move in Trump’s direction, but the race remains tight"
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/15/nx-s1-5153420/swing-state-map-donald-trump-kamala-harris-polls
Following Jill Lepore's critique of polling, empirical evidence, and personal experience, I don't give much credence to polls or polling itself.
I find Nate Cohn's honest and continued emphasis on the limitations of polls useful.
Plus Simon Rosenberg’s poll-watching comments are helpful too.
The only real poll is the betting poll. Who is putting their money on who will win.
It's always accurate. No one is at all emotional or politically biased when it comes to their money.
Gamblers are not confining their information to what's presented by their favorite Party. They look at everything from both Parties in order to make a clear decision.
All of you should check it out. Trump is leading Harris by 15%.
This is a lie! The betting polls are not allowed to accept Americans betting and foreign cash that favors Rump is trying to fool Americans that he is winning— sham!
Don’t drink the poison. You can’t trust the polls, quite a few are republican leaning, so out of those “likely voters” you don’t know who’s who.
Good articles on polls today on Substack!
The last time Trump won in 2016 Bernie and his bust, boys did the same in 3 states that gave Trump the White House, Wis. Penn and Mich, Bernie's uninformed groupies either voted for Stein or didn't vote to punish the DNC and Hillary, who Benie demonized in the primaries so affectively.
Jill Stein has been more or less removed from our ballot here in Ohio. I would't have voted for her anyway.
This is entirely a problem created by FOX News and its lesser imitators, who either don't report on gaffes by Trump--or any other GOP politician--or who sanewash his gibberish. The conservative spectrum of the Fourth Estate are entirely responsible, and have collectively abandoned any pretense of journalistic integrity, hiding behind their First Amendment right to sell opinion and entertainment as actual news.
It's time to hold RW "journalism" to account by either tightening up our libel laws; and/or making some sort of return to the Fairness Doctrine. The constant torrent of lies by RW media and politicians needs to stop, and voters need to once again have confidence that the Fourth Estate will present facts and not make-believe.
Unfortunately, it’s not just Fox News who’s guilty of terrible journalism! Let’s face it. The entire corporate media has not been given it to us straight. In addition to normalizing him all along, they’ve been telling us what Trump meant to say, what their interpretations are, and not what Trump himself has actually been in fact saying and doing. This one example Rather points out is too little too late, way past due but if The NY Times has any integrity left they’ll start reporting just the honest truth and facts thank you very much, like real journalists finally doing their jobs and not people afraid of or cow tailing to Trump and his cronies…
Don't disagree with you. But it's FOX et al who take a leadership role again and again in driving RW stories that benefit RW pols and constituencies, that over time become leading stories in the MSM. "Biden is Senile," e.g., was relentlessly pushed by FOX even before the 2020 primaries. The Critical Race Theory brouhaha is perhaps the greatest example of an obscure grad school course supposedly being used for anti-white indoctrination in every public school in America. The Franken senatorial hit-job harnessing #MeToo outrage is another example.
Furthermore, MSM--including NYT & WaPo--is not pro-Dem. It's arguably right-of-center regarding economic matters; and left-of-center only regarding social issues that reflect prevailing popular sentiment, like a woman's right to choose.
I think it's due to cowardly media, who are desperately trying to avoid hate mail. May be wrong.
Maybe. More likely journalists who come up with a few story ideas to write on; and their editor says, "Go ahead and write about that one."
The medial--left, right, and center--loves Trump immensely. Because every crazy or odious thing out of his mouth is guaranteed to generate clicks and eyeballs. NYT & WaPo readership exploded during '45; and both did skew slightly Leftwards. But both forgot pretty quickly that all that money both made was due to Liberal outrage at MAGA sliminess.
This echos something I've written elsewhere, except Trump won't step aside. That's not within the capability of either his character or narcissism. Instead, one of two things happen. He's removed via the 25th Amendment, Vance takes over and names Johnson as his VP. Who becomes speaker will depend on who controls the House.
OR, he has a "heart attack" in the middle of the night, and Vance takes over. Again naming Johnson as his VP. Or someone very much like Johnson.
Of course this all depends very much on his winning the EC. If he loses in a landslide like many of us believe he will, then it's all moot.
Also, remember it's important for him to WIN in order to get all the court cases against him stopped. Or at least the federal ones.
I go with "heart attack" (AKA poisoning, a la pukin). His followers will overthrow jd if he tries to pull a "25th".
I go with a delicate "encouraging him to see what fun retirement would be." They will get increasingly concerned about how he appears before the public, nationally and internationally.
Trump's PR staff and advisors would figure out some glorified and politically correct excuse to the public to explain his "retirement, " and explain to the Cult that he will be an "advisor," keep his Truth Social, and be readily available to his fans (up to a point). Republicans are just trying to make it to the finish line, and if Trump is elected, their real intent for that four years is Vance, who will prove far more malleable and economically adept that Trump ever did. Peter Thiel's puppet.
But they might have a battle on their hands, considering the court cases, not all of which can be extinguished by another Trump Administration. Trump may fight being shuffled out.
Vance would not be the one able to push him out and anyway, the blowback from the Cult on Vance would be huge. Trump is their Messiah (let's see how long he can keep THAT up in retirement). Vance wants to be in politics for a while.
SO MUCH USELESS CONJECTURE and post NOV 6 gloom..... with three weeks to go the point Mr. Rather makes is that the press is now finally highlighting the apparent decline and unfitness of DT......I would love to see editorials in local papers highlighting the point Dan Rather makes... Biden may look frail but when he speaks he has a grasp of reality and issues as opposed to trump who appears strong (I seriously doubt he is physically fit - we won't see his medical records) but he is not able to coherently express anything with clarity or logic....I would love to see a version of this steady column on the editorial pages of our leading newspapers ..... not that the MAGA crowds read newspapers. Maybe this should be on TIK TOK...Harris tonight on Fox brought home how many people who surrounded Trump say he is not fit to hold the presidency .... Pound that idea home to disillusioned Republicans ... stop predicting the gloom and stick to getting the work of winning done VOTE VOTE VOTE
MAGAites are not reading the NY Times, the WSJ or most publications. They are getting their information from curated sound bites on their infotainment "news" channel of choice. Everything else is fake news.
Exactly.
Completely agree with you about Trump stepping aside and handing the reins to Vance.
IMHO, Trump will never step aside.
I don't believe they will wait a year. Scares the crap out of me why we must vote and win 🏆
Probably true, I have a real fear that Vance being younger will implement 2025 and go on and run two terms at least. I looked up his backer, Peter Thiel and it’s scary how well financed the whole lot of the billionaires club and their beliefs are about democracy.
Wasn’t there a Nancy Katzenbach who was Dem candidate maybe in Virginia when I lived there 30 yrs ago?
Do you honestly think there will be another election if the orange sadist/jd are elected?
No. There won’t be until we have a total changeover in government. (Can’t write the words I want to but will assume you know what I mean.)
I do not think he steps aside...he will be declared incompetent. He will not willingly give it up.
I think the Hindenberg Light Show from Dan's piece is where trump and the hillbilly are headed. We been flying crazy repub skies for a long time and the country is tired. Yes, some trumptards are "goners"; they long ago left the planet and will stay till the bitter end. But dancing Don and his Catlady guy's days are numbered. More republicans are defecting for the sake of reason and democracy. I'm looking forward to the "Light Show" in November. This kind of all-over-the-place crazy is not sustainable.
I bet he doesn't even last a year if he's elected. They'll kick him out of office with the help of the 25th amendment and Vance will be their new puppet.
And Vance will likely be a better puppet than Trump. Like Hitler in 1930's Germany, the Republican Party thought that they'll use Trump's popularity to advance their own agenda. And then Trump ends up pretty much taking over the party. Even with jail on the line and needing to appease voters to win, he's not turning out to be a great puppet.
He seems to be largely a puppet of his own ego. Stroke the ego, stroke the puppet; he wags his tail. Feed that ego; feed it! Very easy to manipulate. All the other despotic world "leaders" understand this very well, it's part of how they gained their power. And they can see this in DJT quite clearly, he proudly wears it like what he thinks is a mantle of greatness. I see it as a mantle of shame.
Using the 25th might make Republicans look like bad guys. Now, if the legislatures both turn blue and impeach Trump again, the 25th is a possibility, if I have my procedures right.
Truly terrifying but very possible.
That's the whole point. Whether they poison trump (a la pukin) or use the 25th (which could make his cult arise in fury), they will put jd in place and Project 2025 will become the law of the land. Bye bye democracy.
What is so confounding is that Biden, while he looks older and has less energy than previously, is generally able to express ideas clearly. He is not in the throes of progressive dementia. And, yet, Trump has been for a long time. The decline is obvious. And, yet, the mainstream media made a huge issue of Biden's age, and we heard not a peep about Trump's decline. Is it finally so obvious that it is impossible to ignore? And, if so, why are some still continuing to excuse and "explain" it away. I'm dumbfounded.
Sometimes I think Trump may be taking drugs to boost his energy levels. His scatter-brained rants could be likened to those of someone on amphetamines or some kind of stimulant.
Agree but as MD I think he what we call organic brain disease: dementia? Normal pressure hydrocephalus even brain cancer ????? Remember we have no objective medical records. I’m terrified even in 🇨🇦
I’ve read a few people say that today.
Jean Biden lived to be 92, and from what I can find, she died after a short illness, no mention of dementia. Fred Trump died at 93 from “pneumonia complicated by Alzheimer’s disease.”
Looks like the apple hasn’t fallen too far from a certain former president’s family tree.
His speech patterns have dimished significantly and that shows itself to the media and the public?
Combined with a past of drug use, he could face an earlier onset than his father. JS
They are in a cult. Google why a person joins a cult.
If Trump is elected and dies in office the worst horror is JD VANCE at the helm.
This has to be the SCARIEST veep pick since Palin. In 2008 the scariest words in the English language were “President Palin”. I won’t even type the 2024 version for fear of breathing it into life.
Vance is more extreme than Palin.
JD is also brighter than Palin
My recently passed dog was smarter than Palin.
It's a tie between Palin and Kari Lake. (She's for "UVF" you know, and said it three times during a recent debate against her opponent.) The only difference is that she can't see Russia from her front porch.
Palin was just diminished brain power. Vance is scarier because the intellect is there, just devoid of character, morals, compassion or empathy!
Palin was a real winner when compared with Vance.
I’m not particularly articulate though succinct and I’m a realist and can see the writing on the wall.
That might be the ultimate GOP plan. There's a scary thought!
Vance is a full supporter of Project 2025 and wrote the preamble.
Yes. The plan to use Donald to get the vote, and then to have Vance amendment 25 him and take over. Scary thought when polls are so close.
I agree. It’s a ruse the Repubtiles are playing.
Knowing Trump has none and always promises one within two weeks.
Help out here. Does anyone have a matrix that compares the parties’ divergent stance on policies?
Trump doesn’t have any policies!! No comparison to see! He wants to be king and do what he pleases! Vote blue to save our country and our rich history!
The media coverage has been absolutely abysmal.
Trump is becoming more unhinged each day. Today he starting naming names on his REVENGE "Hit-List". Adam Schiff was first mentioned because according to Trump, he was the one pushing the "Russia, Russia, Russia" "hoax".
No where have I see mentioned that the REPUBLICAN LEAD Senate Intelligence Committee investigated the Russian Collusion and found that indeed the Trump Campaign did collude with the Russians. Why isn't THIS reported on when Trump makes this false claim?
Let’s remember this. MAGA voters don’t watch main stream media. They watch Fox!
Yes they certainly watch Fox incessently all the while he is insulting and disparaging Fox?
Explain that please?
It's addictive and seductive. I read an interview years ago with a retired Fox executive who explained what we all suspected: that Roger Ailes purposely designed the TV site to be addictive and distracting -- perfect for discouraging thinking too much about what they just said. They took CNN's chyron and put it on steroids. Topping it off, the announcers were loud and hostile much of the time. AND it was reinforced daily -- so essential to maintain a cult.
If Trump is re-elected, heaven forbid, he could be removed from office by his cabinet, using 25th amendment. Then something worse could take over, namely J D Vance! Vote for Harris and prevent this nightmare.
Think about it. He will appoint all "Yes Men and Women". They will not dare challenge the omnipotent Trump. We also cannot expect the Republicans to do anything either. If he takes office, this country is screwed.
Not screwed, brutally raped.
The media has been completely irresponsible with regard to trump, from whitewashing his decline, jumping up and down about Biden's alleged decline (he is of sound mind) to not highlighting the accomplishments of his administration. At a time when the public needs to know the truth, they have failed miserably. Whatever happened to integrity and reporting the facts?
Money 💰
On a much brighter note, the bull-shittery in Georgia was shot down by His Honor, Judge McBurney AND early voting set records! Also, staying true to his word, President James Earl Carter cast his ballot yesterday too 💙💙💙.
Thank you, Jimmy Carter! He made it to 100 yo, and had a very good (selfless!) reason to.
Right now, in Oct, I had planned to be in NJ and help my 82 yo mother vote. I had secured vote by mail for her. Sadly on 6/20, she lost her post-stroke fight. One less vote now... by a woman who, 1st hand, saw the advancements that women's freedom had made. She didn't want any less freedom for women, for healthcare, or for education.
My dad's decline coincided exactly with pandemic... no one in my generation doing eldercare could forget the stupidity of the orange one. The contempt DT has for Americans... it's still sickening every day.
I’m sorry for your sorrows, may you be blessed with many happy memories!
The media also needs to focus its attention on Vance, for obvious reasons. If Trump can’t coherently respond to the questions on policy, Vance can. And if he’s simply a “mini me of the unhinged”, that’s equally troubling.
Thanks Dan,
Trump is definitely declining, but like his father Fred, dementia with power is a dangerous combination. The next danger is the threat a JD Vance and Heritage presents. No good answers on that side of the selection and almost half of the electorate is for this means the news is not out. Good to see that it is starting, but it needs to hit very heavy rotation.
He has been crazy for some time, but the drolling sentences and incoherent ramblings need to be called what it really is.
And what about absent medical reports??? It’s disgraceful that no one makes a big deal about his condition. I’m so disgusted.
It’s just like his taxes - we’ll never see them and he somehow gets away with it!
100%
Best comeback yet about tffg's "concert":
"Not everyone thought this was incredibly strange behavior for a presidential nominee. The Wall Street Journal’s headline was “Trump’s Pennsylvania Town Hall Ends in Concert.” As someone on X commented, that’s akin to saying the Hindenburg landing ended in a light show."
Trump's base isn't voting for him because of his mental abilities. They are full on board with MAGA. So long as that movement continues. In particular the promise of the supremacy they expect or perceive, they are on board.
Exactly! What they can’t get through their heads is, chump doesn’t care about them either. The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its’ limits!
The problem is that Trump is just a place holder for JD.
Until the media can recognize & educationally report on one of our political parties being owned & operated by malignant narcissists, sociopaths & psychopaths, America will continue to remain under grave threat. Just look how close a rapidly declining grandiose malignant narcissist with dementia is to the Presidency right now.
I imagine that most of the people that attended, just thought that he was Great, dancing on that stage. Horrifically, That "STUPID" may Destroy Us All. The "Media" needs a new acronym. The old meaning just doesn't fit them any more. Thanks Dan & Team. Best Regards
Does anyone remember the character Dancing Bear on the old Captain Kangaroo TV show? Trump's performance brought back memories, though I never remembered Dancing Bear to grimace, frown, and clench his paws. Donnie gives it a new twist.
YES!! I remember Dancing Bear on the old Captain Kangaroo TV Show. Watched it every weekday morning. I would be very happy to NOT Remember tRump though.
That swaying to music/fist pumping... what a show that will be at the next G20, or NATO, or...
Most Americans forget that the potus position is extremely global.
We know CN & RU would be his best buddies... but, how, do we expect current Ally countries to react to USA policy that moves 180 degrees from democracy?
USA will become a piranha country... no longer on the same playing at all, with other democracies. Stability, respect and leverage all go away. That would not be fixed 4 years later.
I'm 72. Never in my life, till recently, could he have actually been on a Presidential Ballot. OR Any Ballot.
I read where many of them left. I think it was MSNBC.
But I also ask, will it be in time? I greatly hope so but I for one can't fathom 4 year of the orange idiot. I barely made the first 4.
Me too.