I would like Samuel Alito to have the experience of being in medical crisis and having to beg a politician for his life. Especially if that politician will win more votes if he dies.
These guys don’t have their finger on the pulse. They are so well insulated in the country club atmosphere. Whatever you suggest I hope and pray it happens during his free vacations. The free loader should be punished for that too
They are disgusting. It's all about eliminating women's right to exist as a person. Take away thier power by making women powerless of what happens to thier body. Want to suppress a woman ? Well a man can just assault her rape her like she is a sexual vessel and by doing that she is Demoralized and unable to attend school unable to work she is just a vessel to be abused and controlled. And women make up more then half of the American population so womens rights gone the only people empowered are White Christian Nationalists.
And why is it that the unborn child is soooooo cared for ? What about all those babies who are in foster homes the children whi are in abusive homes or who are abandoned starving? I don't see Justice Alito and Justice Thomas fostering any children or at any orphanages or fighting for children's rights.
Nope because they don't give a damn about any child unborn or born
All they care about is control and power no matter what the costs
Why would they care? It's all at The American citizens expense.
The SCOTUS is a HUGE judicial body that MUST be changed
And the traitorous ones must be impeached and charged for treason and jailed.
OH yes that's exactly why they don't care because the scotus knows it won't apply to them. They will just pay for it the same way Harlan Crow bought and paid for Clarence Thomas
Clarence Thomas should recuse himself for anything involving tfg since his wife participated in the insurrection. He won’t ever do that though because doing so will admit that Ginni Thomas was an active participant in a coup to overthrow our government.
I think everyone should read CASSANDRA SPEAKS - WHEN WOMEN ARE THE STORYTELLERS, THE HUMAN STORY CHANGES, by Elizabeth Lesser -- especially the chapter titled "She's Got the Whole World in Her Hands." Men have tried to suppress women for millennia that's a fact. What are they afraid of?! Why don't we have more civilizations where men and women work as equals?? Stunning.
I saw Katie Porter at a House hearing about universal childcare, and its return on investment-$4 for every $1 spent. She spoke at length about the demographics of Congress--disproportionately male, white, affluent--people who don't need childcare, so don't support it.
The same situation exists in Congress and state legislatures across the country regarding reproductive medical care. The majority are men who will never need reproductive medical care.They are making MEDICAL decisions for the women of their states and in the process, are ruining lives and families and causing death and destruction. The need for abortion care can arise suddenly and without warning. When membranes rupture at 18 weeks is such a serious situation, and no such pregnancy is ever viable. Two important things--1)pregnancy is a medical condition requiring care for the best outcomes. 2)Men do NOT put their lives on the line in the process of reproduction. After their contribution is made, they can walk away, and that might be the biggest problem of all.
P.S. So many "Christians" claim to care for the lives of children before birth actively work AGAINST God's instructions to care for women and children, the vulnerable of society.
Yes, they're more than happy to insist on those children being born, but then are not willing in any way to help support the families who really couldn't afford to have that child, to raise that child in as healthy and supportive a way as possible.
How about banning ED drugs like Viagra & require men to have vasectomies? No that would make them practice birth control & put the shoe on the other foot. It’s all about controlling women PERIOD.
It should be illegal to have sex without a condom! Make it a serious offense!!! And no more ED pills without seeing a Dr. two or three times to ensure they need it!!!
Any person who claims to be a christian is more than welcome to carry any pregnancy she wants. NO ONE should be able to force their convictions on any one else. Can you imagine the nightmare that would ensue if one of them were told they HAVE to abort a pregnancy against their will?!
And those white, privileged men would force their wives, daughters or mistresses to abort a pregnancy in a heartbeat. Many of them have probably already have.
May God forgive me for the anger I feel for these crooked judges, and for the despicable monster that is trump. Pure evil and without conscience. He should be behind bars. He has gotten away with corruption and filth his whole useless life of entitlement. He was never a real,president as you need honesty and intelligence for such an important job as keeping our country safe. He is a complete useless moron and should have been thrown in jail already.
Marianne, I am quite sure that your God will forgive you your justified anger at this abuse and corruption of power. Was it not Jesus who threw the money changers out of the temple? Is there any difference between any of them in their lust for power and riches?
Your anger is very well justified. It is very cruel for the SCOTUS to act like that. They should represent the Will of the people. The majority is tilted towards favoring abortions.
There is plenty of sickness is society, literally and figuratively. No respect for women is one of them, and that too by the Highest court of the land. Utterly disgusting.
Oh ! Yes, Ms. Hill for sure. These guys are all shameless. It is not even funny anymore. They should thank God they are in the United States. Had they been in Middle Eastern countries or North Korea, they would have lost their behind.
The price we must pay to avoid calamitous leadership. Where were these women in 2016? Where were they in 2000. (Sorry it sounds as if I’m blaming women and I don’t mean to do so. But we could have easily projected what would happen after the regressives took the majority.) Did anyone ever think by putting into high office a republican that we would get wise leadership? Remember that kindly ole Herbert Walker Bush? Oh, yep, he got into the Court Uncle Tom the worst justice in my lifetime. I think so but they are trying to outdo each other in rabid behavior.
There's this thing called The Electoral College! Women have voted en masse for years. Not one Republican president of the last three has won the popular vote. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
There are many of us who hate the Dobbs decision, voted for Hillary and Joe, and despise Sam the Sham, Long Dong Silver, feckless cj john, the handmaiden, the stolen chair occupied by gore-n’such, and beer boy brett. Some of us campaigned vigorously for Issue #1 in Ohio - teaming with women in support of reproductive health and now anti-gerrymandering.
There will be a day of reckoning for the likes of agent orange and moscow mitch mctraitor - but it may take awhile.
I did phone banking and post cards for HRC. And I consistently told anyone I talked to that the 2016 election was about SCOTUS control and ending Citizens' United. But too few were able to look into the future ramifications of another GOP Presidency , to my great frustration.
That's exactly how it is for me, also....when something this serious is happening, I wish for the people who are obstructing what is right....that they would have the experience of helplessness that they have just caused for other human beings. The former Land Commissioner of NM commented on FB today with a derogatory comment about this Supreme Court. All of us know how very wrong all this is.
Star Trek: Voyager did an episode similar to this;
The Doctor's program is taken from Voyager, and he is put to work on a vast hospital ship, where the twisted medical system is based on social status, rather than medical condition.
More broadly, he's arguing that the Constitution's Supremacy Clause notwithstanding, state law should trump federal law. You know else thought that? Confederate insurrectionists.
Wait until it affects their daughters or granddaughters. Holier than thou has a tendency to backfire big time. In the meantime, women will be maimed or die because of these self righteous nobodies. And babies will also die in often painful and unnecessary ways. These useless deaths, like the anti-vax Covid deaths are and were unconscionable. There is no moral high ground in any of this.
I honestly think Alito (with his 8 children) would hold the line when it came to his own wife & daughters. He would totally be fine with martyring someone in his immediate family to uphold the edifice of his faithfulness.
That's how you know they're really zealots. And if he's fine with sacrificing his own wife or daughters, he's more than willing to sacrifice other women on that altar.
Let’s talk about EMTALA. My husband was an emergency medicine physician and the Medical Director of the emergency department and I a retired ICU nurse. Before EMTALA, a hospital that was a money grubber ( I can name names in Seattle) could do a “wallet biopsy” on a woman coming to the ED with an incomplete spontaneous abortion of a wanted pregnancy, who is bleeding heavily. If she fails the test (no insurance and no money) they could tell her they didn’t have the facilities to care for her and send her to another hospital that provides charity care. They felt no obligation to save her life…. This is the hospital not the ED doctor’s decision.
People died and EMTALA was a method to prevent this practice we called “dumping”. Doctors and nurses have an ethical obligation to care for people who need our help. Even retired I honor my oath and help anyone who asks for my help and my husband did too.
Any hospital ( pretty much every one), that receives any federal funds, must stabilize the patient before they can transfer the patient to another facility. This patient would need a D&C (like an abortion) before she could be transferred. Then she would be stable and not in danger of bleeding out.
There is not a single justice on the Supreme Court qualified to decide this. They don’t know that we have a saying “to not let the sun set on an ectopic pregnancy” it is too dangerous for the woman. They don’t know how fast a woman can bleed out from an incomplete spontaneous abortion. As a professional and as a woman, mother and grandmother, I am outraged. We cannot wait until November, women will die.
Coney Barrett may have "seemed concerned" but she is a big reason Dobbs was decided that way. Her entire purpose of being on SCOTUS was to get rid of Roe v Wade. I do not believe these people didn't understand what might happen. They simply do not care. Women are dying and they. Do. Not. Care.
And it's the Christianity that's the fundamental problem here. Christian theology holds that women are solely responsible for humanity's fall from grace. It takes literally Genesis 3:16, which states that women must bear many children in great pain, and that men should have dominion over women and their childbearing. That's what this has always been about.
They don't need a loophole. They can be impeached, and several of them should be. But the same thing that kept them from hurrying to charge Trump is keeping them from impeaching SCOTUS members who rule along party lines. "It's never been done before! " of course it's never been done before. We’ve never had a criminal in the White House, or on the highest court before.
Well said. They only value human life that they like. These women who are dying and otherwise going through so much suffering don't matter a lick to her or the other trump appointees.
From her demeanour it would appear that there is a limit to how much mansplaining and misogyny directed at her Justice Barrett can take without getting annoyed…
Amy Coathanger Barrett voted to overturn Roe, with GLEE, after outright LYING about leaving Roe in place, as it was "precedent". Her twisted ideology is an abomination to not only women, but to our justice system. I despise her.
It is a smug and entitled mindset that speaks to a protected and narrow view of life. Nevertheless, she and all the rest of those opportunistic nobodies have blood on their hands. Especially the blood of the poor who Catholics are required to love and serve.
I fully agree! As a past ICU nurse And a retired Family Practice physician I am horrified at what the medical profession has been forced to abide by. Regarding the "money grabbing" hospitals, unfortunately they are all run by Insurance companies who are more concerned with their profitable bottom line than with the needed health care of people.
My niece almost did. She fled Texas who let her bleed for 3 days in a hospital doing nothing but giving her morphine- literally flew to Colorado and had sepsis- she survived and grieved not only her baby that was not going to survive, but the trauma of the whole thing. This is happening all across the country in what I refer to as female slave states
Good call and I agree with you 100 percent. The south has always been good at masking their cruelty under the banner of Christian values and polite manners, but it is 💯 percent bs.
this is criminal and devastating forbthat poor woman. my heart hurts for,her and I am not supposed to hate, but I am just a mere mortal, not as forgiving as God, and I wish with all my heart that I could fire every one of those despicable evil judges and throw trump in a jail cell for the rest of his dirty, evil corrupt life. He is trash, nothing more as are those incompetent destructive judges. Despicable people.
Contrast Idaho with the care my daughter received from a skilled and compassionate medical team in neighboring Montana when her much wanted pregnancy proved unviable. In consultation with her husband and medical team she elected to terminate her pregnancy, a traumatic and heart wrenching decision for all concerned. I was there to care for our one-year-old granddaughter and provide ballast and moral support. The following day the doorbell rang. No handcuffs or bounty hunters. Instead there was a beautiful, tender bouquet delivered courtesy of their medical team. I will forever remember that humane and compassionate response, especially since it happened against the Kate Cox drama in Texas.
As a healthcare worker for 45 years I say thank you for this post. You are 100% correct. Healthcare decisions must be made by trained healthcare professionals (Drs and nurses) who understand the complexities of the problems that can occur especially in the ER. SCOTUS is most definitely not qualified to make medical decisions. This decision is between the dr and patient.
Next we can talk about the total disregard of HIPPA laws when it comes to a woman’s bodily autonomy.
Unfortunately women will have to move or travel to other states to receive reproductive health care. The problem is , in several states, where abortion is illegal, you have Republican legislators that must be voted out in November. This is why your vote is so important!
What perplexes me is how on Earth the Right ignored the fact that surgical abortion is a medical procedure done by skilled physicians, and is often necessary to save the life of pregnant person. Nor did the even think that muddying the waters would cost human lives. And what would make anyone legislate that a fetus has more medical rights than a fully formed human being? At the very least, they are foolish. At the worst, they are cruel and uncaring. To say otherwise is not the truth.
I believe they knew that they were putting women's and girls' lives at risk, but they didn't care. They only care about votes, and they sincerely thought this was what their far-right constituents wanted. They are constantly surprised to find any opposition from "their women." Cruel and uncaring is exactly what they are.
I think they are unwittingly the latter. They have been brought up in a world apart from the rest of us. Maybe as women and their babies die horrible deaths their over privileged, sanctimonious eyes will be opened. That is now between them and their maker. It is up to all of us to stop them.
And with all due respect, it is not PEOPLE who are suffering because of Dobbs and because of states like Idaho and Texas where it is legal to torture WOMEN by denying us medical care. I am sorry , but I see no men suffering from not being able to access maternity care. I am not trying to set up a shit storm but I am tired of women being cancelled. It is WOMEN who die when abortions are illegal.
The right has no idea what they've unleashed upon society and themselves. If there's one issue that will drive liberals and moderates to the polls to get rid of the extremists, it's this one.
And we need to continue to vote Blue until we have a balanced and fair Supreme Court. It will take decades, but we cannot rest until we have cleaned up this disastrous court!
We need to push back with everything in our power not to have it for decades by voting blue and pushing for changes to ensure to the best of our ability to make things as fair as possible
Supreme Court justices can be impeached and Thomas would be an easy candidate for removal given his unethical conduct. Moreover, an expanded court might be able to also be gender balanced by law.
Thank you for this. It is so almost unbelievable that I needed confirmation that our SCOTUS indeed has sided with and will protect the likes of cave man trump. Women-hating men do not belong on the highest court in our land.
This is a major problem. Keep religion out of government. The separation of church and state is vital for democracy. Why should someone else’s religion dictate my choices?
I hate men right now who know absolutely nothing about a woman’s body and how it works yet want to control every inch of it. Can you imagine if the court were all women and decided that all men could no longer take viagra or couldn’t have a vasectomy? I can’t wait til these assholes die! We are mad as hell and you will see the wrath in November. Get ready cult members!
Further, that when men get prostate cancer or testicular cancer, they can't get treated because urologists and oncologists have retired early or left the state. Got Bent Carrot or erectile dysfunction? STDs and your wiener is falling off? Sorry, no can do. We have to consult our female attorneys about whether we can help you.
MAGA needs to stay the hell out of our doctor’s offices. And worry about their own sick and twisted obsession with Trump. Focus on getting out of your cult before you get fired in Roevember.
Thank you for saying what many of us are thinking Scott! We need men of your caliber on our side, screaming at the top of your lungs, right along side of us. 💙
I plan continue to amplify many stories and voices of those who can speak better to it than I. So many horror stories already. So many more to come. What Republicans have done is absolutely disgusting.
More women and men are going to decide pregnancy and child birth are just too risky if states with abortion bans continue to grow. OB doctors will continue to relocate to states where they can use their medical expertise without fear of going to jail. The birth rate will continue to fall. These trends are already underway.
The U.S. is currently spotlighted on the world stage as a schizoid, return-to-dark-ages, "christian" tyrannical nation whose potential president is on trial for election interference with players including a porn star , Playboy model, and some guy named Pecker who proudly did dirty work to promote his rag of a magazine. Can't we all be proud? ALL OF IT better stop soon. We have the planet both terrified of, and laughing at, America. Purple Heart material.
Dan, thank you for chronicling the epic disaster that has been Dobbs. You seem to have identified the source of it - obsession and arrogance that never saw coming the unintended consequences to medicine, women and their families, nor the collapse of respect for the SCOTUS itself.
The near immediate consequences of Dobbs was entirely predictable if one considers the decades of demonizing Planned Parenthood’s work. “Pro-lifers” focused almost exclusively on abortions, ignoring the wide range of services provided to people without medical insurance or the financial wherewithal to find a private doctor. These include education, birth control, STD testing and treatment, cancer screening, counseling and more. I have known many women, young and not-so-young, who were only able to find the care they needed through Planned Parenthood. The ultra narrow focus on abortion has allowed the far right to avoid discussion about sexual health issues of any kind.
Again, these people border on practicing medicine without a license…a crime. They are wholly responsible for what befalls people who do not get proper care. A burden, especially for Ms Coney Barrett et al who thought she was above reproach. She should think again!
Thanks, Dan, for exposing the absurdity of this whole "Life" movement! To think that we as a democratic society could allow women to be so abused, discounted and abandoned in this country is beyond comprehension! How have we come to this?
SCOTUS is certainly responsible for this disastrous decision. How could they not have foreseen the consequences of throwing the abortion issue back to the states? If they make the same reactionary, bone headed decision on the Trump immunity plea, without a doubt, they are finished as a court. We know Alito and Thomas would vote for Trump to be king. The Roberts Court is in very serious trouble.
And in Missouri, our governor will sign a bill defunding Planned Parenthood. It’s a war on women. On anyone who is not a straight, white male. We need to vote them all out in November. Let them see that we are very capable of making our own decisions. And that decision is to get rid of politicians who are so afraid of a bully that they are not upholding their oath of office.
I donate to Planned Parenthood monthly! I see what's happening in these states with governors who are doing their utmost best to close down ANY clinic which provides abortion, even when that procedure isn't even 10% of what they actually do. It's so infuriating!! Grrrr!
In the hands of the Supreme Court is the right of pregnant women to receive emergency health care that may affect their pregnancy. I hope the Supreme Court justices consider the vulnerability of the physicians performing emergency procedures to protect the health of these women!
Seriously, they seem so wrapped up in right-wing ideology their whole beings just wreak of it. The 6-3 majority may very well afford them the ability to wreak havoc on any and all progressive policies. However, WE THE PEOPLE rule here, not SCOTUS. If you lose the understanding of that reality and you’re in a position of ultimate authority for life and think you don’t answer to WE THE PEOPLE - you - and WE THE PEOPLE - are in serious trouble.
I would like Samuel Alito to have the experience of being in medical crisis and having to beg a politician for his life. Especially if that politician will win more votes if he dies.
I just hope he and Thomas die soon and very painfully. They are such evil assholes.
And they would be denied some kind of care they might need.
I worked in an ER for 20 plus years. Trust me they could burn in the street for all i care. I'd gladly supply the matches.
These guys don’t have their finger on the pulse. They are so well insulated in the country club atmosphere. Whatever you suggest I hope and pray it happens during his free vacations. The free loader should be punished for that too
They are disgusting. It's all about eliminating women's right to exist as a person. Take away thier power by making women powerless of what happens to thier body. Want to suppress a woman ? Well a man can just assault her rape her like she is a sexual vessel and by doing that she is Demoralized and unable to attend school unable to work she is just a vessel to be abused and controlled. And women make up more then half of the American population so womens rights gone the only people empowered are White Christian Nationalists.
And why is it that the unborn child is soooooo cared for ? What about all those babies who are in foster homes the children whi are in abusive homes or who are abandoned starving? I don't see Justice Alito and Justice Thomas fostering any children or at any orphanages or fighting for children's rights.
Nope because they don't give a damn about any child unborn or born
All they care about is control and power no matter what the costs
Why would they care? It's all at The American citizens expense.
The SCOTUS is a HUGE judicial body that MUST be changed
And the traitorous ones must be impeached and charged for treason and jailed.
I’d love to know how many abortions they have paid for.
OH yes that's exactly why they don't care because the scotus knows it won't apply to them. They will just pay for it the same way Harlan Crow bought and paid for Clarence Thomas
Clarence Thomas should recuse himself for anything involving tfg since his wife participated in the insurrection. He won’t ever do that though because doing so will admit that Ginni Thomas was an active participant in a coup to overthrow our government.
I think everyone should read CASSANDRA SPEAKS - WHEN WOMEN ARE THE STORYTELLERS, THE HUMAN STORY CHANGES, by Elizabeth Lesser -- especially the chapter titled "She's Got the Whole World in Her Hands." Men have tried to suppress women for millennia that's a fact. What are they afraid of?! Why don't we have more civilizations where men and women work as equals?? Stunning.
I saw Katie Porter at a House hearing about universal childcare, and its return on investment-$4 for every $1 spent. She spoke at length about the demographics of Congress--disproportionately male, white, affluent--people who don't need childcare, so don't support it.
The same situation exists in Congress and state legislatures across the country regarding reproductive medical care. The majority are men who will never need reproductive medical care.They are making MEDICAL decisions for the women of their states and in the process, are ruining lives and families and causing death and destruction. The need for abortion care can arise suddenly and without warning. When membranes rupture at 18 weeks is such a serious situation, and no such pregnancy is ever viable. Two important things--1)pregnancy is a medical condition requiring care for the best outcomes. 2)Men do NOT put their lives on the line in the process of reproduction. After their contribution is made, they can walk away, and that might be the biggest problem of all.
P.S. So many "Christians" claim to care for the lives of children before birth actively work AGAINST God's instructions to care for women and children, the vulnerable of society.
Yes, they're more than happy to insist on those children being born, but then are not willing in any way to help support the families who really couldn't afford to have that child, to raise that child in as healthy and supportive a way as possible.
Makes me feel so much anger
How about banning ED drugs like Viagra & require men to have vasectomies? No that would make them practice birth control & put the shoe on the other foot. It’s all about controlling women PERIOD.
It should be illegal to have sex without a condom! Make it a serious offense!!! And no more ED pills without seeing a Dr. two or three times to ensure they need it!!!
Any person who claims to be a christian is more than welcome to carry any pregnancy she wants. NO ONE should be able to force their convictions on any one else. Can you imagine the nightmare that would ensue if one of them were told they HAVE to abort a pregnancy against their will?!
And those white, privileged men would force their wives, daughters or mistresses to abort a pregnancy in a heartbeat. Many of them have probably already have.
The truth is, they just don't care. Helot harvesting.
And they are ignorant about a lot of things especially women’s bodies and how they function.
May God forgive me for the anger I feel for these crooked judges, and for the despicable monster that is trump. Pure evil and without conscience. He should be behind bars. He has gotten away with corruption and filth his whole useless life of entitlement. He was never a real,president as you need honesty and intelligence for such an important job as keeping our country safe. He is a complete useless moron and should have been thrown in jail already.
Marianne, I am quite sure that your God will forgive you your justified anger at this abuse and corruption of power. Was it not Jesus who threw the money changers out of the temple? Is there any difference between any of them in their lust for power and riches?
I agree wholeheartedly
Your anger is very well justified. It is very cruel for the SCOTUS to act like that. They should represent the Will of the people. The majority is tilted towards favoring abortions.
There is plenty of sickness is society, literally and figuratively. No respect for women is one of them, and that too by the Highest court of the land. Utterly disgusting.
Thank you
I would party harty at their gravesites.
I would share some vintage scotch with both of them at their gravesites - after first running it through my kidneys.
We will have beer, some one in the supreme court, loves beer. You know who that is, lol
Thank you
Let's be sure to invite Anita too
Oh ! Yes, Ms. Hill for sure. These guys are all shameless. It is not even funny anymore. They should thank God they are in the United States. Had they been in Middle Eastern countries or North Korea, they would have lost their behind.
Literally!
Betty thank you for saying it out
I pray for this every freakin DAY
I wish no such ill on anyone, but do hope they choose to retire soon -- wouldn't that be nice?!
But they have to hurry!!!
Wow. What a non-believing comment from one conceived in the image and likeness of God.
What about all the pompous asshole non-believing evil comments made by Thomas and Alito!? Guess they weren’t made in the image of God.
You can add Alito to the list, and Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Coney Barrett, who lied under oath.
The price we must pay to avoid calamitous leadership. Where were these women in 2016? Where were they in 2000. (Sorry it sounds as if I’m blaming women and I don’t mean to do so. But we could have easily projected what would happen after the regressives took the majority.) Did anyone ever think by putting into high office a republican that we would get wise leadership? Remember that kindly ole Herbert Walker Bush? Oh, yep, he got into the Court Uncle Tom the worst justice in my lifetime. I think so but they are trying to outdo each other in rabid behavior.
There's this thing called The Electoral College! Women have voted en masse for years. Not one Republican president of the last three has won the popular vote. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
We are but it’s not enough! We need to do more to stop these evil hypocritical idiots
Some women are doing everything they can. I believe a majority of white women still supported Trump in 2020.
Many women have not nor will they ever vote for Trump.
Actually, where were the men?
There are many of us who hate the Dobbs decision, voted for Hillary and Joe, and despise Sam the Sham, Long Dong Silver, feckless cj john, the handmaiden, the stolen chair occupied by gore-n’such, and beer boy brett. Some of us campaigned vigorously for Issue #1 in Ohio - teaming with women in support of reproductive health and now anti-gerrymandering.
There will be a day of reckoning for the likes of agent orange and moscow mitch mctraitor - but it may take awhile.
Agree of course. Well, let me say that men are too stupid. Can I say that?
(I think you did....lol.)
Seriously, only GOP voters focused on SCOTUS when they voted. Very few Dems paid attention. I bet they do from now on.
I did phone banking and post cards for HRC. And I consistently told anyone I talked to that the 2016 election was about SCOTUS control and ending Citizens' United. But too few were able to look into the future ramifications of another GOP Presidency , to my great frustration.
I did
And we were among the very few.
Excellent. Thank you. Abject stupidity and cruelty must be stopped.
That's exactly how it is for me, also....when something this serious is happening, I wish for the people who are obstructing what is right....that they would have the experience of helplessness that they have just caused for other human beings. The former Land Commissioner of NM commented on FB today with a derogatory comment about this Supreme Court. All of us know how very wrong all this is.
Star Trek: Voyager did an episode similar to this;
The Doctor's program is taken from Voyager, and he is put to work on a vast hospital ship, where the twisted medical system is based on social status, rather than medical condition.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Critical_Care_(episode)
Exactly.
Good point.
And also, that the federal government should not have the right to insist that states provide life-saving care to women or girls in crisis.
More broadly, he's arguing that the Constitution's Supremacy Clause notwithstanding, state law should trump federal law. You know else thought that? Confederate insurrectionists.
Wait until it affects their daughters or granddaughters. Holier than thou has a tendency to backfire big time. In the meantime, women will be maimed or die because of these self righteous nobodies. And babies will also die in often painful and unnecessary ways. These useless deaths, like the anti-vax Covid deaths are and were unconscionable. There is no moral high ground in any of this.
I honestly think Alito (with his 8 children) would hold the line when it came to his own wife & daughters. He would totally be fine with martyring someone in his immediate family to uphold the edifice of his faithfulness.
That's how you know they're really zealots. And if he's fine with sacrificing his own wife or daughters, he's more than willing to sacrifice other women on that altar.
RIGHT!
I don't understand your comment.
I don't either
Me neither
WTH??
Which makes no sense except in their world as a “lesson” to other women.
Let’s talk about EMTALA. My husband was an emergency medicine physician and the Medical Director of the emergency department and I a retired ICU nurse. Before EMTALA, a hospital that was a money grubber ( I can name names in Seattle) could do a “wallet biopsy” on a woman coming to the ED with an incomplete spontaneous abortion of a wanted pregnancy, who is bleeding heavily. If she fails the test (no insurance and no money) they could tell her they didn’t have the facilities to care for her and send her to another hospital that provides charity care. They felt no obligation to save her life…. This is the hospital not the ED doctor’s decision.
People died and EMTALA was a method to prevent this practice we called “dumping”. Doctors and nurses have an ethical obligation to care for people who need our help. Even retired I honor my oath and help anyone who asks for my help and my husband did too.
Any hospital ( pretty much every one), that receives any federal funds, must stabilize the patient before they can transfer the patient to another facility. This patient would need a D&C (like an abortion) before she could be transferred. Then she would be stable and not in danger of bleeding out.
There is not a single justice on the Supreme Court qualified to decide this. They don’t know that we have a saying “to not let the sun set on an ectopic pregnancy” it is too dangerous for the woman. They don’t know how fast a woman can bleed out from an incomplete spontaneous abortion. As a professional and as a woman, mother and grandmother, I am outraged. We cannot wait until November, women will die.
Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown Jackson understand exactly what you are saying. Even Coney Barrett seemed concerned.
Woman are dying.
Coney Barrett may have "seemed concerned" but she is a big reason Dobbs was decided that way. Her entire purpose of being on SCOTUS was to get rid of Roe v Wade. I do not believe these people didn't understand what might happen. They simply do not care. Women are dying and they. Do. Not. Care.
And she said in her confirmation hearing that Roe was the law of the land and would remain so. Liar.
These far right wing nut jobs who claim to be Christians don't seem to have a problem at all with lying. It's ironic.
And it's the Christianity that's the fundamental problem here. Christian theology holds that women are solely responsible for humanity's fall from grace. It takes literally Genesis 3:16, which states that women must bear many children in great pain, and that men should have dominion over women and their childbearing. That's what this has always been about.
If there is a loving god, why is childbirth so painful?
Not lying does not seem to be a requirement for prospective SCOTUS appointees.
Lying to get the seat on the bench appears to be a requirement for all the recent appointments.
Or Christians applying for SCOTUS
I still find it hard to accept that a low-life (yes, I mean that!) like Kavanaugh is seated on the highest court in the land! Yuk!
Of course she lied, just like Thomas and Kavanaugh. That's what good judges do in the GOP world.
There has to be some constitutional loophole to get them off the bench. A lawyer needs to chime in here with a solution.
They don't need a loophole. They can be impeached, and several of them should be. But the same thing that kept them from hurrying to charge Trump is keeping them from impeaching SCOTUS members who rule along party lines. "It's never been done before! " of course it's never been done before. We’ve never had a criminal in the White House, or on the highest court before.
Well said. They only value human life that they like. These women who are dying and otherwise going through so much suffering don't matter a lick to her or the other trump appointees.
very angry that there seems to be nothing we can do about the cowardly corrupt supreme court justices . absolute disgrace as is trump. filth.
Coney Barrett's 'concern' reminds me of that of Senator Susan Collins. In other words, not very.
From her demeanour it would appear that there is a limit to how much mansplaining and misogyny directed at her Justice Barrett can take without getting annoyed…
Correct. To them, we are vessels.
Amy Coathanger Barrett voted to overturn Roe, with GLEE, after outright LYING about leaving Roe in place, as it was "precedent". Her twisted ideology is an abomination to not only women, but to our justice system. I despise her.
As Ms Albright told us - there is a special place in hell for women who do not support women. Let Justice Barrett burn there for all eternity.
Ah but until she gets to hell women will suffer and die.
It is a smug and entitled mindset that speaks to a protected and narrow view of life. Nevertheless, she and all the rest of those opportunistic nobodies have blood on their hands. Especially the blood of the poor who Catholics are required to love and serve.
why is there nothing that we can do?
I fully agree! As a past ICU nurse And a retired Family Practice physician I am horrified at what the medical profession has been forced to abide by. Regarding the "money grabbing" hospitals, unfortunately they are all run by Insurance companies who are more concerned with their profitable bottom line than with the needed health care of people.
Medicine became a business not something special that put the patients well being first.
That medicine as business model started with Nixon. God help us all.
So true. I was happy to retire from healthcare after watching the changes made when hospitals became systems/corporations.
Thank you. There is way more to a healthy society than the bottom line.
My niece almost did. She fled Texas who let her bleed for 3 days in a hospital doing nothing but giving her morphine- literally flew to Colorado and had sepsis- she survived and grieved not only her baby that was not going to survive, but the trauma of the whole thing. This is happening all across the country in what I refer to as female slave states
Good call and I agree with you 100 percent. The south has always been good at masking their cruelty under the banner of Christian values and polite manners, but it is 💯 percent bs.
this is criminal and devastating forbthat poor woman. my heart hurts for,her and I am not supposed to hate, but I am just a mere mortal, not as forgiving as God, and I wish with all my heart that I could fire every one of those despicable evil judges and throw trump in a jail cell for the rest of his dirty, evil corrupt life. He is trash, nothing more as are those incompetent destructive judges. Despicable people.
My condolences to your niece. Fortunate she herself survived the sepsis!
Contrast Idaho with the care my daughter received from a skilled and compassionate medical team in neighboring Montana when her much wanted pregnancy proved unviable. In consultation with her husband and medical team she elected to terminate her pregnancy, a traumatic and heart wrenching decision for all concerned. I was there to care for our one-year-old granddaughter and provide ballast and moral support. The following day the doorbell rang. No handcuffs or bounty hunters. Instead there was a beautiful, tender bouquet delivered courtesy of their medical team. I will forever remember that humane and compassionate response, especially since it happened against the Kate Cox drama in Texas.
As a healthcare worker for 45 years I say thank you for this post. You are 100% correct. Healthcare decisions must be made by trained healthcare professionals (Drs and nurses) who understand the complexities of the problems that can occur especially in the ER. SCOTUS is most definitely not qualified to make medical decisions. This decision is between the dr and patient.
Next we can talk about the total disregard of HIPPA laws when it comes to a woman’s bodily autonomy.
Thank you so much for your comment!
You are so right. Your ethical obligation far outweighs anything that SCOTUS says. They have NO right to decide what happens in ANY medical emergency.
Exactly. They know zilch about medicine/nursing. They have no business determining medical issues.
Right. I wonder what would happen if a relative had a problem pregnancy - that would be a different story! Just sayin'.
Unfortunately women will have to move or travel to other states to receive reproductive health care. The problem is , in several states, where abortion is illegal, you have Republican legislators that must be voted out in November. This is why your vote is so important!
Please name names.
Need to get truth out.
What perplexes me is how on Earth the Right ignored the fact that surgical abortion is a medical procedure done by skilled physicians, and is often necessary to save the life of pregnant person. Nor did the even think that muddying the waters would cost human lives. And what would make anyone legislate that a fetus has more medical rights than a fully formed human being? At the very least, they are foolish. At the worst, they are cruel and uncaring. To say otherwise is not the truth.
Non-medical males making medical decisions for females!
And, these corrupt, non-elected men (and one despicable woman) on the SCOTUS LIED to be sure they were confirmed.🤬
What’s so frustrating is that we all knew it.
But we didn't get to vote on it.
And nothing at all was done after they lied
There are plenty of women supporting this too. Don Snoreleone's biggest voting block is white women.
Many women support them. They voted these men in.
I believe they knew that they were putting women's and girls' lives at risk, but they didn't care. They only care about votes, and they sincerely thought this was what their far-right constituents wanted. They are constantly surprised to find any opposition from "their women." Cruel and uncaring is exactly what they are.
All the more reason for all of us to vote Blue, come November, 5th. Hit them where it hurts.
They suck, pardon my french, lol
Clear statement of truth never needs to be pardoned.
They are very nasty, uncaring bunch. Including Trump and his entire family. Nasty.
Zygotes have more rights than any of us.
Hear hear. Well said and spot on.
I think they are unwittingly the latter. They have been brought up in a world apart from the rest of us. Maybe as women and their babies die horrible deaths their over privileged, sanctimonious eyes will be opened. That is now between them and their maker. It is up to all of us to stop them.
And with all due respect, it is not PEOPLE who are suffering because of Dobbs and because of states like Idaho and Texas where it is legal to torture WOMEN by denying us medical care. I am sorry , but I see no men suffering from not being able to access maternity care. I am not trying to set up a shit storm but I am tired of women being cancelled. It is WOMEN who die when abortions are illegal.
The right has no idea what they've unleashed upon society and themselves. If there's one issue that will drive liberals and moderates to the polls to get rid of the extremists, it's this one.
But the Court won’t change until they die off.
If there is a blue wave, it could lead to enlarging the current kangaroo court to something that functions in a democracy rather than taking bribes.
I hope like heLL that the court is expanded during Biden's second term. It's way past time for this.
And we need to continue to vote Blue until we have a balanced and fair Supreme Court. It will take decades, but we cannot rest until we have cleaned up this disastrous court!
We need to push back with everything in our power not to have it for decades by voting blue and pushing for changes to ensure to the best of our ability to make things as fair as possible
I agree and there are some obituaries I will not be sorry to read.
Or we get a trifecta of dem controlled congress and the wh
Supreme Court justices can be impeached and Thomas would be an easy candidate for removal given his unethical conduct. Moreover, an expanded court might be able to also be gender balanced by law.
Thank goodness!!
Thomas is a traitor and should be tried as one.
Thank you for this. It is so almost unbelievable that I needed confirmation that our SCOTUS indeed has sided with and will protect the likes of cave man trump. Women-hating men do not belong on the highest court in our land.
Neither do justices that allow their religious beliefs make their constitutional decisions!
This is a major problem. Keep religion out of government. The separation of church and state is vital for democracy. Why should someone else’s religion dictate my choices?
AMEN! Pun intended.🙂
I cannot tell you how much
I hate men right now who know absolutely nothing about a woman’s body and how it works yet want to control every inch of it. Can you imagine if the court were all women and decided that all men could no longer take viagra or couldn’t have a vasectomy? I can’t wait til these assholes die! We are mad as hell and you will see the wrath in November. Get ready cult members!
Further, that when men get prostate cancer or testicular cancer, they can't get treated because urologists and oncologists have retired early or left the state. Got Bent Carrot or erectile dysfunction? STDs and your wiener is falling off? Sorry, no can do. We have to consult our female attorneys about whether we can help you.
Boner pills sent through mail might be stopped under ancient Comstock Law. God wanted you to have a limp dick.
Good analogy.
I’d be happy to cut both of theirs off!
These men are fully backed by nasty women.
I would not call them women.
True enough. Sadly.
Betty- please check <vote forward.com> and help motivate voters! We can make a difference.
So I assume you didn’t take the Covid shot and supported others right to choose?
Has nothing to do with this. Everyone who can should get vaccinated. Go away.
Virginia- Look up "vote forward" and get your friends to help! Letter writing to those on the fence about voting. e must motivate voters!!
MAGA needs to stay the hell out of our doctor’s offices. And worry about their own sick and twisted obsession with Trump. Focus on getting out of your cult before you get fired in Roevember.
Roevember!!! I like that a LOT!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for saying what many of us are thinking Scott! We need men of your caliber on our side, screaming at the top of your lungs, right along side of us. 💙
I’ll always help in any way I can!
Thank you! There are many women now who will have the trauma of near death due to government oppression...
I plan continue to amplify many stories and voices of those who can speak better to it than I. So many horror stories already. So many more to come. What Republicans have done is absolutely disgusting.
Thank you!!!
More women and men are going to decide pregnancy and child birth are just too risky if states with abortion bans continue to grow. OB doctors will continue to relocate to states where they can use their medical expertise without fear of going to jail. The birth rate will continue to fall. These trends are already underway.
The U.S. is currently spotlighted on the world stage as a schizoid, return-to-dark-ages, "christian" tyrannical nation whose potential president is on trial for election interference with players including a porn star , Playboy model, and some guy named Pecker who proudly did dirty work to promote his rag of a magazine. Can't we all be proud? ALL OF IT better stop soon. We have the planet both terrified of, and laughing at, America. Purple Heart material.
Or younger students will choose other rotations - steering clear of choices being second guessed by zealots masquerading as judges and politicians.
Dan, thank you for chronicling the epic disaster that has been Dobbs. You seem to have identified the source of it - obsession and arrogance that never saw coming the unintended consequences to medicine, women and their families, nor the collapse of respect for the SCOTUS itself.
And every single republican in congress and the state level
The near immediate consequences of Dobbs was entirely predictable if one considers the decades of demonizing Planned Parenthood’s work. “Pro-lifers” focused almost exclusively on abortions, ignoring the wide range of services provided to people without medical insurance or the financial wherewithal to find a private doctor. These include education, birth control, STD testing and treatment, cancer screening, counseling and more. I have known many women, young and not-so-young, who were only able to find the care they needed through Planned Parenthood. The ultra narrow focus on abortion has allowed the far right to avoid discussion about sexual health issues of any kind.
Again, these people border on practicing medicine without a license…a crime. They are wholly responsible for what befalls people who do not get proper care. A burden, especially for Ms Coney Barrett et al who thought she was above reproach. She should think again!
Thanks, Dan, for exposing the absurdity of this whole "Life" movement! To think that we as a democratic society could allow women to be so abused, discounted and abandoned in this country is beyond comprehension! How have we come to this?
DJT … what else needs to be said? Whatever he does is a complete cluster. This is a good example of what he does.
"DJT … what else needs to be said? "
Leonard (CharlesKochOpusDei) Leo.
Mitch McConnell.
This majority was not created by GOP presidents alone
SCOTUS is certainly responsible for this disastrous decision. How could they not have foreseen the consequences of throwing the abortion issue back to the states? If they make the same reactionary, bone headed decision on the Trump immunity plea, without a doubt, they are finished as a court. We know Alito and Thomas would vote for Trump to be king. The Roberts Court is in very serious trouble.
They don’t care about the consequences; they are Trump supporters and that trumps everything (pun intended).
And in Missouri, our governor will sign a bill defunding Planned Parenthood. It’s a war on women. On anyone who is not a straight, white male. We need to vote them all out in November. Let them see that we are very capable of making our own decisions. And that decision is to get rid of politicians who are so afraid of a bully that they are not upholding their oath of office.
I donate to Planned Parenthood monthly! I see what's happening in these states with governors who are doing their utmost best to close down ANY clinic which provides abortion, even when that procedure isn't even 10% of what they actually do. It's so infuriating!! Grrrr!
You are welcome in your neighboring state here in Illinois. This, of course, is only a temporary fix. Vote your uncaring and nasty people out.
Actually, Chicago is my hometown. Missouri is culture shock!
Aye, it would be a culture shock. (a transplant from Washington, D.C. 57 years ago, 45 miles south of Springfield, IL.).
In the hands of the Supreme Court is the right of pregnant women to receive emergency health care that may affect their pregnancy. I hope the Supreme Court justices consider the vulnerability of the physicians performing emergency procedures to protect the health of these women!
Seriously, they seem so wrapped up in right-wing ideology their whole beings just wreak of it. The 6-3 majority may very well afford them the ability to wreak havoc on any and all progressive policies. However, WE THE PEOPLE rule here, not SCOTUS. If you lose the understanding of that reality and you’re in a position of ultimate authority for life and think you don’t answer to WE THE PEOPLE - you - and WE THE PEOPLE - are in serious trouble.
EMTALA meant to protect patient from “dumping”.